Cops almost never kill law-abiding citizens in the line of duty, so I doubt you'll be able to find much evidence supporting this claim. And no, you're not a law-abiding citizen if you die resisting arrest after committing a DUI.
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. Comments like this take the thread noticeably hellward, and we're trying to go the opposite way here.
First of all, people aren't always resisting when the cops kill them. There have been numerous instances in the past few years that got international attention, so I'm not going to detail these.
Then there is the very obvious problem of SWAT raids, where police regularly get the wrong house! But they still go in with their guns, and sometimes shoot before they ask questions. How would you feel if police broke down your door and pointed assault rifles at you, threatening to kill you if you moved? Also, how would you know they're police? They regularly break down the door and threaten to kill someone before ever announcing that they are the police. And even then, how would you know that they are the police? I'd feel absolutely justified murdering anyone that attacked me like that, I don't give a fuck if it's the pope.
Here's some data you can explore if you want to, though.
> Cops almost never kill law-abiding citizens in the line of duty
That's pretty much true by definition, since an officer killing a law-abiding civilian outside of a very narrow class of reasonable bona fide mistakes of fact is, ipso facto, not properly performing authorized job functions, and therefore not acting in the line of duty.
This comment has no relevance to anything. I never said law-abiding is a requirement for life.
But I can all but guarantee you will not be able to find more than one or two examples of police killing a law-abiding citizen and receiving no punishment. It doesn't happen.
I guarantee you have broken some laws, even if unwittingly. So you are not a law-abiding citizen, ergo cops can kill you with impunity. Still OK with that?
The GP comment was egregious flamebait and shouldn't have been posted, but by the above three guidelines, this reply shouldn't have been posted either.
dang|5 years ago
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Judgmentality|5 years ago
Then there is the very obvious problem of SWAT raids, where police regularly get the wrong house! But they still go in with their guns, and sometimes shoot before they ask questions. How would you feel if police broke down your door and pointed assault rifles at you, threatening to kill you if you moved? Also, how would you know they're police? They regularly break down the door and threaten to kill someone before ever announcing that they are the police. And even then, how would you know that they are the police? I'd feel absolutely justified murdering anyone that attacked me like that, I don't give a fuck if it's the pope.
Here's some data you can explore if you want to, though.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/06/05/policekillings/
https://policeviolencereport.org/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/series/counted-us-police...
dragonwriter|5 years ago
That's pretty much true by definition, since an officer killing a law-abiding civilian outside of a very narrow class of reasonable bona fide mistakes of fact is, ipso facto, not properly performing authorized job functions, and therefore not acting in the line of duty.
alisonkisk|5 years ago
splaytreemap|5 years ago
But I can all but guarantee you will not be able to find more than one or two examples of police killing a law-abiding citizen and receiving no punishment. It doesn't happen.
grey-area|5 years ago
dang|5 years ago
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The GP comment was egregious flamebait and shouldn't have been posted, but by the above three guidelines, this reply shouldn't have been posted either.
splaytreemap|5 years ago
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happymellon|5 years ago
Example one.
> I can't breath.
There are numerous examples happening on a regular basis in the US. They kill US citizens who are not a threat and not resisting all the time.
splaytreemap|5 years ago
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