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vertex-four | 5 years ago

I dress the way I do because I am a woman. Sorry you don’t believe me. Do you wanna see my cunt to prove it?

I also have breasts, can’t exactly hide those without causing damage. Visibly disabled folk get harassed at work too, they can’t hide their very personal problem, nor should we be asking them to.

This isn’t relevant in the workplace. I am legally recognised as a woman. If you don’t accept that - politics isn’t acceptable in the workplace, remember?

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wayneftw|5 years ago

If you're a woman then how would I "know [your] deeply personal issues only by how [you] dress"?

I have never seen anyone make fun of people who look like women for dressing like women.

Fat and unattractive people get made fun of and harassed the world over, starting in grade school. A cis woman who doesn't look like a woman is considered unattractive too as you mentioned below.

Honestly it just sounds like unattractive people problems to me. Perhaps we need a movement to protect fat and unattractive people too.

vertex-four|5 years ago

I have a jawline that doesn’t match what you’d expect, a receding hairline, and very occasionally I fail to shave absolutely perfectly. I have slightly broader shoulders than most women. All things some cis women have to deal with, I might add, which leads to stories like “cis woman assaulted when she tried to use the women’s bathroom”.

Point is - I am legally recognised as a woman. My legal name is a woman’s name. I have tits and a cunt. If you start asking me what my “real name” is, or suggesting to people that I might rape them if we share a bathroom, you’re the one bringing politics into work - I’m complying with the law. I want to be at work less than you do, I don’t have a choice, let me exist.

Being forced to wear men’s clothes, a binder, and be called Kevin would be literally torture - I would die before I did that. It is not at all the same thing as sweatpants or khakis. It’d be blood on your hands.

vertex-four|5 years ago

There’s already a movement to protect unattractive women (men generally do not suffer the same sort of gendered harassment, because women are generally not looking at their colleagues at work and being angry that they’re not fuckable) from harassment in workplaces. Has been for, what, the past 50 years. Laws around it too. My HR training covered them. Somehow guys don’t get the message.

Misogyny sucks, transmisogyny is a special breed of that, sadly.