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anon_for_this_1 | 14 years ago

I don't know anything about this, so yes I'm naive. But when I read this, I think about the Wright brothers. They were told something was impossible, and it was right up until they did it. So possible to communicate faster than light?? I have no idea, but I hope somebody keeps trying despite what the current accepted science says.

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hugh3|14 years ago

I don't know anything about this, so yes I'm naive. But when I read this, I think about the Wright brothers

Perhaps if you did know something about this you'd understand why this is an annoying sort of comment. Nothing personal, this kind of thing happens a lot.

General public: Hey scientists, is it possible to communicate faster than the speed of light?

Scientists: Gee, I dunno, let's go figure that out.

[many years of hard work]

Scientists: Whew, well we've gone away and done a lot of hard work and it turns out that it's impossible. Here's a twenty-page pamphlet with a few equations which summarises the most relevant points.

General public: Hummmph, well, I haven't bothered to read that pamphlet, but I can't help but think you're being closed-minded and that in fact it might be possible but you're just too dumb to figure it out. [goes back to watching Star Trek]

The most annoying thing about this line of argument is that it's impossible for the voice of conventional wisdom to actually win it. We can't prove that faster than light travel is impossible, nor that there isn't a dragon hiding in your garage (carefully hiding from every observation), nor the nonexistence of ghosts or body thetans.

If you want to start an argument with Every Physicist In The World about whether it's possible to send information faster than the speed of light, it's nice if you familiarize yourself with the arguments as to why it's impossible first. I think you might agree that it's less like the Wright Brothers and more like King Cnut.

tedunangst|14 years ago

The comparison isn't very good. Anyone telling the Wright brothers flight was impossible didn't have science on their side. All they had to do was look out a window and see a bird flying to know that. I suspect "that's a hard problem" morphed into "flight is impossible" over time because it makes their story more inspirational.

TomasSedovic|14 years ago

Also, there's a difference between "using quantum entanglement to communicate faster than light" and "communicating faster than light".

If I understand it correctly, it's theoretically feasible to achieve the the latter (in effect).

While it's impossible to send information at speeds that exceed c, it should be possible to bend the spacetime (e.g. using worm holes) so that the information would appear to have traveled faster than light.

po|14 years ago

There is a huge difference between something be "impossible" and something being theoretically impossible. The first is an engineering problem. The second is a much deeper level of problem.

The Wright brothers didn't have to overturn any accepted theoretical constructs to build the airplane. On the contrary, the theory at the time said they were on the right track. It was the general public that thought it was impossible.

Confusion|14 years ago

There's a difference between a theoretical impossibility and a practical impossibility. The latter can be overcome by technological inventions; the first requires new theory. There hasn't really been any new fundamental theory in the last 70 years. Everything has been expansion, deepening, explication, detailing of what was already known, suspected, possible within the conceptual frameworks.