[DINKDINK]

Do you think the Roman Catholic Church will give up the Geocentric status of the Bible? Like it or not, political power structures have no ability to impose their preference on rebellious reality.

Governments lost the war against information, cryptography, and money. The most charitable interpretation one can have for tyranny is that if you're going to talk about the tanks in Tienanmen, it's more costly to do it privately.

[Mediterraneo10]

> Governments lost the war against ... cryptography

I don't think so. The vast majority of people communicating around the world today are doing so through backdoored platforms like Whatsapp or WeChat, and running backdoored operating systems or backdoored processors. Sure, there is a tiny population of cypherpunks who might really have good opsec, but at this point it is no longer a government's "war" against anything: the war is won and some ultra-low-level unrest doesn't change that fact.

[Sebb767]

While I agree that one shouldn't trust WhatsApp and I don't use it, I don't think it is fair to simply label it as backdoored without further proof. It uses Signals encryption after all, despite its drawbacks (i.e. single-client only or multi-client with a rather bad setup).

[gruez]

wechat yes, but AFAIK whatsapp uses the signal protocol? Not to mention half of the US uses iOS which has imessage

[filleduchaos]

The only reason why the RCC has "given up" the geocentric status of the bible is that it has lost political power over the centuries, and newer more powerful political entities have ascended in its place.

Political power very much has the ability to impose its preference on "reality". That is exactly why it exists.

[lottin]

If you think all governments are tyrannical I guess you need to move to a failed state. They are all lovely places.