Note: this, although self-hosted, appears to transmit your usage data without consent (just like the selfhosted Mattermost server from the same people):
I was very interested in this. There's no way I'm using it now. I'll never trust anything from Mattermost.
Maybe it still counts as open source but with this, plus their complex licensing, I feel it runs very counter to what the FOSS community actually wants
While I understand the feeling, it's also truth that these kinds of projects appear to receive a lot more criticism than if they went completely closed source which feels a bit unfair.
I have not significantly used Notion, but this isn't really a replacement for it is it?
Notion seems to be focused on wiki and notes, with built in structured data allowing you to setup things like boards and task lists.
This seems to just be the boards and task lists without the free form notes and wiki? It pretty clearly replaces Trello and Asana. Notion seems like a stretch from the 5 minutes I poked around in it.
I see it as a "faster" altrrnative to the kanban widget in Notion, clearly not a replacement. I use Notion to collect bookmarks, quotes, code, media, every bit of information I need for a project and despite its relative slowness and the lack of offline mode is serving me well.
I love Notion but the speed, or rather lack of, is killing me daily. Last Friday I was taking some notes, and suddenly the page refreshed and everything was gone. Went on twitter to see, I wasn't alone .. i feel like hosting my own notion clone is the way to go forward to use Notion...
Same here. And I still did not find the perfect note taking app. I have so few requirements. WYSIWYG editing, easy image insertion, export function with open standard format, mobile app, some security.
I did focus on "Task management/To-do lists", while OpenProject is listed under the "Project Management" section. This is likely why I missed it as I've been looking for something clean and simple (not JIRA) that is more akin to the earlier versions of Trello (rather than the feature bloated whale it has now become).
Looking at it now and to be honest it doesn't quite look like what I'm looking for when looking for a Trello alternative, I just want cards on a board I can move around (with a bit of metadata)
On the licensing page of Open Project 'agile boards' is one of the paid features, so I don't see how it is relevant in this case.
Screenshots look good and it is nice to see that they have figured out a good business model for open source software.
But I don't like to see that 2FA is available only in the paid version still in 2021. Security should be at the core of these kinds of systems.
And I hope that maintaining it is much easier than other Ruby projects that I have encountered in the past. For example, I used to run Redmine project management system, and maintaining it up to date was painful due to fragmentation and differences between Ruby versions. Hopefully Docker and better migration scripts have solved those problems nowadays. Still, even with containerization available, when it comes to self hosted solutions I definitely prefer ones that get compiled to nice binaries. Go, Rust, C, etc.
Last time I used it, it was generally a good experience, albeit slow sometimes when moving/editing stuff around but amount of features it offers even on free plan in my opinion compensates that. Also API is rather easy to use. I'm also surprised it doesn't get so much exposure, alongside https://www.phacility.com/phabricator/
Agreed OpenProject is impressive. I used it for myself for a time. Then switched back to OrgMode. But if I come to manage a team with several projects I would clearly use that.
When has the fragmentation argument ever prevailed, in the history of technology? New flavors of practically everything, down to bare metal, release daily. The world may agree on communication protocols, but even that is nearly impossible to do together.
I became a Windows user recently and I install everything I can from the Microsoft Store, so I don't have to individually and manually get updates for all the apps I installed.
I download all KDE apps (Kate, Kile, Okular, Krita, etc) from the store, if possible. The one big issue I discovered with that is that store apps can’t be set as default to open a file for a file format that the app didn’t specify itself (e.g., you can’t open an .NFO per default with Kate, as Kate doesn’t register itself as file handler for .NFO files)
Its not very popular yet, but its 100% the future. I use it whenever an app is available on the store - easy, consistent auto updates is much better than each app nagging you to update independently. Better for devs as well because it gives you much more confidence that new versions will be adopted quickly.
In the same category as 'self-hosted trello', I found "Planka" not to long ago, and as a self-hosted trello/kanban/todo board, it was pretty easy to boot up and has worked for my simple purposes for the last few months....
This is awesome. This with good integration with Mattermost (or discord) would serve the needs for a lot of teams. Notion could as well but they are a slow moving beast with different priorities.
It would’ve been more convenient to me if this project provided standalone downloads for macOS and Windows. The current downloads for the Desktop version are only available through the respective app stores on these two platforms.
A good self-hosted alternative is https://kanbantool.com/kanban-tool-on-site - it launched back in 2009, has time tracking and allows for a lot of customization through SDK.
[+] [-] it33|5 years ago|reply
Huge thanks to everyone who's sharing feedback and comments. It is super exciting to be trending on HackerNews!
We've just put up a new Wiki page for people to share feature ideas, to join our Discourse forum, and to report bugs: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...!
Thank y'all so much for being interested in our project and our space!
We've been working super hard to make something people love, and we'll continue to do so with your input and ideas!
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[+] [-] sneak|5 years ago|reply
https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/server/se...
Anyone want to offer me odds on the likelihood of a patch removing this spyware getting accepted by the maintainer in this “open source” project?
[+] [-] bluefirebrand|5 years ago|reply
I was very interested in this. There's no way I'm using it now. I'll never trust anything from Mattermost.
Maybe it still counts as open source but with this, plus their complex licensing, I feel it runs very counter to what the FOSS community actually wants
[+] [-] fimdomeio|5 years ago|reply
While I understand the feeling, it's also truth that these kinds of projects appear to receive a lot more criticism than if they went completely closed source which feels a bit unfair.
[+] [-] cooperadymas|5 years ago|reply
Notion seems to be focused on wiki and notes, with built in structured data allowing you to setup things like boards and task lists.
This seems to just be the boards and task lists without the free form notes and wiki? It pretty clearly replaces Trello and Asana. Notion seems like a stretch from the 5 minutes I poked around in it.
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[+] [-] mandiantBob|5 years ago|reply
I have been self hosting Kanboard on my rpi for my own work, and I think that Kanboard still has many 'poweruser' features that Focalboard is missing.
If there is an easy way for me to migrate my Kanboard data over to Focalboard, I would definitely give it a shot as a daily driver.
[+] [-] raggi|5 years ago|reply
[+] [-] nickysielicki|5 years ago|reply
https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard
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[+] [-] movedx|5 years ago|reply
I mean this kind of thing continues to fuel my beliefs that software is going backwards here because frankly, how hard can it be to render some text?
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[+] [-] it33|5 years ago|reply
You can try the "Focalboard Personal Desktop" to run locally where your performance won't be affected by other users.
We made it available in Windows Store and Apple AppStore to make it easy to try out.
This is just a v0.6 right now, and we would love bug reports and enhancement ideas.
It's the early days of the project and we are excited to hear input: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues
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[+] [-] kogepathic|5 years ago|reply
> wget https://releases.mattermost.com/focalboard/0.5.0/focalboard-...
> tar -xvzf focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz
The file is actually a zip with the tar.gz inside:
focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
$ unzip -l focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz
Archive: focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz
Length Date Time Name
--------- ---------- ----- ----
12461347 02-02-2021 00:38 focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz
-------- -------
12461347 1 files
Running tar directly (as written in the instructions) will fail with:
$ tar -tzvf focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz
tar: invalid magic
tar: short read
It seems like there's something unintentionally producing a zip at the end of the build process.
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[+] [-] unsungNovelty|5 years ago|reply
I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project...
- Have been there for a long time.
- Good motivated team AFAIK,
- Have forum software.
- Project board
- And even version control!
Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them.
Or is there some other reason why openproject is not known? Would love to hear more from the HN community on this.
[+] [-] 4lun|5 years ago|reply
I mainly used this list https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#tas...
I did focus on "Task management/To-do lists", while OpenProject is listed under the "Project Management" section. This is likely why I missed it as I've been looking for something clean and simple (not JIRA) that is more akin to the earlier versions of Trello (rather than the feature bloated whale it has now become).
Looking at it now and to be honest it doesn't quite look like what I'm looking for when looking for a Trello alternative, I just want cards on a board I can move around (with a bit of metadata)
[+] [-] Jnr|5 years ago|reply
Screenshots look good and it is nice to see that they have figured out a good business model for open source software.
But I don't like to see that 2FA is available only in the paid version still in 2021. Security should be at the core of these kinds of systems.
And I hope that maintaining it is much easier than other Ruby projects that I have encountered in the past. For example, I used to run Redmine project management system, and maintaining it up to date was painful due to fragmentation and differences between Ruby versions. Hopefully Docker and better migration scripts have solved those problems nowadays. Still, even with containerization available, when it comes to self hosted solutions I definitely prefer ones that get compiled to nice binaries. Go, Rust, C, etc.
[+] [-] it33|5 years ago|reply
We weren't aware of Open Project previously, and we're glad to hear about it.
I think you're right, Focalboard is a lot earlier than Open Project, and it doesn't have as many features.
Focalboard was starting during the Mattermost 2020 Hacktoberfest last year: https://mattermost.com/blog/hacktoberfest-2020-recap/
It's in the early stages of development, only v0.6 right now: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/CHANGELOG...
That said, we're working on it constantly and excited about its future.
Of the features Open Project has now, are there one or two top priorities you'd suggest we consider adding to Focalboard?
We'd love to hear any feedback, feature suggestions or bug reports: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...!
[+] [-] blowski|5 years ago|reply
But for me, fragmentation is one of the key benefits of open source. Let thousands of alternatives bloom!
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The project just looks really cool and I’m definitely going to download and try this.
I just wanted to thank the developers from the bottom of my heart for creating this.
Lastly I’m just curious is it possible to host this on a raspberry pi
[+] [-] eps|5 years ago|reply
I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.
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[+] [-] it33|5 years ago|reply
Hi @eps, I've opened a ticket on this: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99
Would you be open to giving a "Thumbs Up" and/or a comment sharing more about the benefits?
Community feedback is super important, and we would love to hear more from you and others
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24812900
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