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The ReadyForZero Programming Challenge

45 points| ithayer | 14 years ago |readyforzero.com

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[+] gjm11|14 years ago|reply
Three problems, algorithm-centric, each solvable with (some intelligent thought and) a few lines of (say) Python. Unsurprisingly, the payoff is "we're hiring; please send us your resume".

ReadyForZero appears to be a company that helps people get out of credit card debt by tracking what you owe to whom and recommending what to pay off in what order. They just got Series A funding.

[+] amalcon|14 years ago|reply
The most difficult part was figuring out unspecified things in the problems. Generally I had to use my intuition about "otherwise this would be either impossible or too easy" to get the right answer.

The first problem should be more explicit about the nature of the difference: a "typo" or non-shared could reasonably be an omission of a character, which would mean that the position of the unknown character does not matter. This weaker problem has more than one correct answer for the given input data. Better to call it a "corrupted byte" or somesuch.

It should be explicitly stated that the tree is balanced in the second problem. It should also state that each node contains exactly one character or that all nodes have nonempty payload (you can figure out either of those pieces of information from the other one).

The third problem should specify that it's looking for a strict partition. Contiguous is not a strong enough requirement. As written, I can have as many "contiguous subsequences" of zero elements as I want located anywhere in the string.

I particularly like the third as a teaching problem, and I might have to use it sometime. It's pretty simple, not overly reliant on programming concepts, and the "clever" solution is both faster and easier to implement than the brute-force try-everything solution.

[+] ibdknox|14 years ago|reply
Given that the point of this is to have fun and also tease out people worth hiring, having ambiguity in the problems is a good thing I think. Rarely is a real technical problem so clearly and obviously defined. So requiring a bit of thought and intuition might prove to be a good filter :)
[+] ithayer|14 years ago|reply
Very good points. The computer screen wasn't that large so I tried to keep the descriptions short. :)
[+] nottodayy|14 years ago|reply
Reading the first problem, I think I am not ready for zero, it seems that the first problem is not well described.
[+] zheng|14 years ago|reply
You are looking for a sequence of 5 characters that differ by one character, but are otherwise identical (order matters). For example, an answer would be something like '89^hf' and '8z^hf'
[+] kevinholesh|14 years ago|reply
From the source of the website: "<!-- Are you looking at the source code? Like we'd put the answers here. Creative tho... -->"

It was worth a shot.

[+] gmaslov|14 years ago|reply
These are very similar to (and easier than most of) the Project Euler problems. http://projecteuler.net/ -- Highly recommended for everyone.
[+] ithayer|14 years ago|reply
If anyone wants the hard version, let me know (you can upvote this comment)
[+] pom|14 years ago|reply
That was a fun before-breakfast warmup; the input was always short enough that a simple, brute-force approach would usually work. The problem statements could have been made a little bit clearer though.

And what's up with the green-on-black Mac screen?!

EDIT: my solutions (using Node.js) https://github.com/julienq/incubator/tree/master/misc/readyf...

[+] owenjones|14 years ago|reply
Hello could someone help me with problem 2? I believe I am splitting the string correctly, 1 2 4 8 16 ... 512 = 1023 total chars/nodes, but when I add the integers of the last line (aka the leaves) I get the wrong result.

https://gist.github.com/1029356

Thanks.

[+] sokolski|14 years ago|reply
My solutions: https://gist.github.com/1026309 Didn't really stop and think on the first one for too long, so it's a bit messy. Overall it's quite easy but not trivial. Knowing the length of the challege at the beginnig wold be nice though.
[+] llimllib|14 years ago|reply
My answers in 31 lines of code: https://gist.github.com/1025860

I am either misreading the third problem's description, or I have a bug I can't for the life of me see, because the answer my program puts out is not accepted.

[+] DanielStraight|14 years ago|reply
The third problem is looking to partition the entire sequence of numbers into contiguous subsequences, all of which add up to the same sum. In other words, if the list were 23415, you subsequences could be 23, 41 and 5, all equaling 5. But the subsequences have to use up the entire string and they can't overlap.
[+] apaprocki|14 years ago|reply
> #pip install python-levenshtein > from Levenshtein import distance

That doesn't seem in the spirit of the challenge.

[+] wccrawford|14 years ago|reply
Oh, that first question looks tasty. I dunno what a 'ReadyForZero' is, but the challenge could be fun.
[+] decultured|14 years ago|reply
Fun challenge, but not too difficult. The largest challenge was making the intuitive leaps to discover the missing information in the questions, especially for problem two. A bit of trial and error, and a few lines of Python made for quick testing of those assumptions.
[+] drdo|14 years ago|reply
Wasn't hard. The problems could be better explained, for example in the second one they should clarify that the binary tree is balanced and that each node is one character.
[+] noglorp|14 years ago|reply
> binary tree is balanced and that each node is one character

I found that pretty intuitive given they tell us it is a tree with 2^n-1 nodes, and that this is then umber of characters in the text file.

What I'm wondering about is what the '=' pad character means in the context of non-valid base64 (i.e. isn't it the same as the 'A' character - a null?)

[+] ithayer|14 years ago|reply
you're right - we should explain that it's balanced.
[+] leif|14 years ago|reply
yeah I thought it was base64 and that was annoying
[+] DanielStraight|14 years ago|reply
I don't usually do these challenges, but this one was pretty fun. It's three problems long. Took me about 30 minutes.
[+] genesiss|14 years ago|reply
I enjoyed solving these. Last one is cool, but hint is too obvious ;>
[+] drdaeman|14 years ago|reply
When one has cookies disabled (and those days I believe everyone should) it throws Django error page:

> Forbidden (403)

> CSRF verification failed. Request aborted.

They should've checked that cookie exists. Or, better, not rely on cookies.

[+] ithayer|14 years ago|reply
Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, we could have checked every single corner case, but our job is to build financial software, not programming challenges, so we did it quick and dirty :)
[+] troyk|14 years ago|reply
Could that be a booger on the 1 key (numeric keypad)?
[+] abofh|14 years ago|reply
Meh, it killed an hour or two that needed to suffer.