[stonecraftwolf]

So these are typically not conversations that queer people have outside of queer circles, because people like you cannot be trusted to engage in good faith or in a way that respects us as people, and your attempt to rules lawyer the complexities of human attraction and identity as though it’s some fun intellectual exercise for you (when for us it is often life or death) is evidence of why.

Anyway, it is incredibly disingenuous to imply that there is an equivalence between sexual orientation and the loud proclamation that one could never date anyone trans given that it is often impossible to physically distinguish between cis and trans people after medical transition. Those people don’t have a problem with their orientation, they have a problem with trans people.

[zozbot234]

What about lesbians who are concerned that some AMAB folks in their community might simply objectify them sexually, in a way that others would be a lot less likely to? Doesn't that seem like a good reason to be a bit warier when interacting with some group of people?

[randomswede]

There's quite a gap between "there are some women lesbian L would not date" and "all trans women are really men".