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jonathannat | 5 years ago

I find it odd that I've had to click through a few times on both hacker news and reddit to get the info for the person in question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Challenor

> Aimee Challenor, who currently works at reddit, is, at best, sympathetic to pedophilia. She has hired her father after he raped and tortured a 10 year old girl, a fact I find it hard to believe that she wasn't aware of, due to her living with him at the time of the crime, which happened in their house over several days. Her boyfriend also posted clearly pedophilic tweets, and he is now her husband.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/mbqgx2/a_clarif...

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piyh|5 years ago

Wow, there's Richard Stallman level Epstein/pedo comments, then there's this. I don't know why she has a job right now. I get that some people have rough childhood, go through things that a normal person can't comprehend and we shouldn't hold that against them, but why in the world would you take someone who is either that stunted or a pedo and put them in a position of power?

medium_burrito|5 years ago

Please don't compare RMS and Epstein. RMS made a comment re consent, which I believe he said he had reconsidered.

Epstein was not just a pedo but a pimp for all sorts of rich and powerful people, complete with a pedo-jet, private-pedo-island and shitloads of money nobody seems to know from whence it came.

tomjen3|5 years ago

It is common for sexual abusers to have been abused as children themselves. Her father was a pedophile. There is a decent chance she was abused, which would explain the weird behaviour.

thefz|5 years ago

> Wow, there's Richard Stallman level Epstein/pedo comments, then there's this.

But on one hand you have an old, white male. On the other, a clearly oppressed minority who happened to make a little mistake. In the current climate, where do you think this is going?

freeflight|5 years ago

Wow, that sounds a lot like what happened with Ghislaine Maxwell and theories how she's the owner of one of the most influential powermod accounts on Reddit [0]

The actual content of that submission has by now been removed, linking to it on frontpage subs used to get people banned, with mods arguing how linking to that thread is equal to accusing Reddit moderators of being pedophiles/child traffickers.

Which is a bit of a weird reasoning considering afaik Ghislaine Maxwell wasn't yet convicted of anything.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/hnckn0/umaxwellhil...

y-c-o-m-b|5 years ago

Here's an article I found about her husband also fantasizing about pedophilia: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/something-rotten-at-the...

I'm posting that link because it also contains information around their claim his Twitter account was "hacked".

mantap|5 years ago

Graham Linehan is one of the most doctrinaire anti-transgender individuals, anything he writes on the subject should be taken with a very large pinch of salt.

AnIdiotOnTheNet|5 years ago

How am I supposed to feel about this? Someone has sexual fantasies about clearly immoral and horrible acts, but has apparently (I only skimmed the article) never acted on them. I am supposed to, what, think this person is vile? That anyone who associates with them is vile? Why is it any of our business what this guy is into?

snicksnak|5 years ago

Jeez, that's disgusting and concerning to say the least.

Wonder if this is another case of reddit admins went rogue or even sanctioned by reddit.

antihero|5 years ago

Important to note that this article is written by a huge "anti-trans activist" Graham Linehan.

lordgroff|5 years ago

Wow. Truly disturbing.

hpoe|5 years ago

In addition she hired her father to act as an employee for her political party after he was charged with his crimes and convicted.

rory|5 years ago

Remember when censorship was supposedly about protecting the children? This woman had publicly shown herself to be more accepting of pedophilia and child rape than 99.99% of the population, and Reddit hired her as a censor. It really makes me wonder, what exactly were her qualifications?

snicksnak|5 years ago

i'm going out on a limb here and __speculating__ it's the identity of this person to fulfill some kind of quota, I can't explain it otherwise.

tinus_hn|5 years ago

It appears she is pretty good at rallying troops for her cause, even despite this controversy. It’s not that far fetched she could have seemed a good community manager.

balozi|5 years ago

What's the end game here? If she is a free person - is the end goal that she never works again, anywhere, ever? Or is the goal that Reddit allow their employees be targeted and bullied by users?

tomp|5 years ago

There’s a bit of a difference between “working” and “being given the power to moderate teenage-oriented communities and censor/silence all criticism on a mainstream website”.

It’s very humane to forgive, but also incredibly stupid and irresponsible to forget.

lacker|5 years ago

Just a job that doesn't involve interacting with and moderating a community seems reasonable. Nobody would be upset if she was, say, a software engineer quietly fixing bugs in application logic for tax software.

Akinato|5 years ago

Honestly I'm not sure anyone has an end game here. Someone on UKpolitics posted a basic link to a recent news article and got banned. People are getting banned for mentioning her. This is what most of the controversy is about. They're stifling any discussion of what are quite serious issues, because they hired her. Posting a link to a public newspaper shouldn't be ban worthy. However now that Reddit has been grossly overstepping in their reaction, people are getting very upset about censorship and the perceived conflicts of interest.

rogermecizki|5 years ago

Amongst other issues (judgement, personal connections, etc.) she was (is?) a moderator of subreddits tailored towards young, vulnerable people. It's a big safeguarding issue and one that any form of background check should have highlighted.

dehrmann|5 years ago

I've wondered this, too. When someone who isn't rich gets cancelled, did something legal, but egregious enough that they can't find a job, or had to "resign" because they oversaw an organization where something bad happens, how does this play out? Can they never find work again? Do they find work and are massively underpaid? In the US, relying on government support isn't really an option.

And that was for people who did something sort of bad. What about people like this woman who allegedly have very controversial opinions? What happens to cops who are fired after shooting someone? That, and what's the right thing to do? Are they unemployable? Does the government provide some sort of domestic political asylum payment?

inglor_cz|5 years ago

I think she ought to have zero power over other people and possibly even animals. Given her life record so far, she is not to be trusted with having power over others, no matter how minuscule.

There are plenty of jobs that fit this description.

P_I_Staker|5 years ago

This is a big general unanswered question in our society when it comes to "disreputable" people whether they be criminals or involved in some serious scandal. The goto answer is to ban them from everywhere. They should not ever get a job, house, or have any associates. This seems dark to me, but most people seem to just accept it.

sergiotapia|5 years ago

Why would reddit hire this kind of person and then _PROTECT_ and _HIDE_ this decision. Strange.

giancarlostoro|5 years ago

I've heard over the last 12 hours that just saying their name on reddit gets you banned. I've seen some posts with the name on them on reddit, so I'm not sure if that happened beforehand. They spun it as doxing, but this person was a politician and the subreddit that got targetted by them was political in nature. They also then blamed it on auto bots but their name was in an article in an instance, I doubt reddit bots are that thorough as to scrape through linked articles.

buisi|5 years ago

What are the tweets which her boyfriend posted? If it's just about his fantasies, I'm not really concerned about that, so long as he isn't committing crimes himself, or encouraging others to do so. It can be an outlet for such predilections. Shaming someone for them doesn't make them magically go away. And I can imagine him being the only one willing to marry her with her association with her father.

Do you mean literal torture? Ouch, sadistic ones are scary.

I'm not surprised she hired her own father. People will do a lot of things, when their own family is involved. This isn't to defend the decision, but it isn't inherently irrational.

Is there anywhere where it would be appropriate for her father to work? A lack of stable employment could contribute towards him committing further crimes. Preferably, somewhere away from children?

drited|5 years ago

You should have googled the situation before you made that assertion. Her father is in jail for 22 years due to the atrocity of the crimes he committed in his attic against that 10 year old girl. Per news coverage of the matter in the Guardian the role Aimee gave him after he had been charged with child abuse and rape(1) quote 'may have allowed him to interact with vulnerable people.'(2)

It is also of note that the claims the 10-year old girl made about the abuse conducted in the attic of the family home aligned with what the police found in the attic on the day of the arrest.

Source: 1. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/31/green-party...

2. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/12/green-party...