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68k.news: A Netscape 1.1 makeover of Google News

404 points| gripfx | 5 years ago |68k.news | reply

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[+] darkwizard42|5 years ago|reply
I think my favorite part is just how short some of these articles really are once you remove all the nonsense and extra crap in the web pages.

Some articles are actually... 8 sentences. That is it. How on earth does it then take 10 seconds to scroll and parse all the fake inserts to finally realize that this is a poorly researched snippet masquerading as news...

[+] agumonkey|5 years ago|reply
Few years ago I realized a wild chunk of news websites are mostly tweets coated in menus and [social share] button.

This part of the web makes me so jaded about 'progress' I'm into woodworking now.

[+] consumer451|5 years ago|reply
> I think my favorite part is just how short some of there articles are...

In an attempt to enjoy this effect more broadly, I have Reader Mode set to enabled by default on Safari mobile.

On Firefox desktop I often use the Reader View button on news stories. There is an extension to enable this by default, but I have a hard time trusting browser add-ons.

[+] dan-robertson|5 years ago|reply
It’s reasonable to have short articles in a newspaper, where you want to fit in a bunch of short factual stories, or on a newswire where you just want to quickly send out some facts before competitors. In the former case you just put lots of stories on one page. In the latter case, it’s often expected to be short.
[+] deagle50|5 years ago|reply
Where are you seeing the short version of the article? Each link takes me to the original.
[+] gmurphy|5 years ago|reply
Nostaliga really kicked in here - seeing things like this for the first time, and feeling the unfurling of the future and a thousand new ideas in front of you, one so new and beyond all of your sci-fi expectations, and yet so real.

I feel so incredibly fortunate to have been old enough to see and understand the start of all of this, and later, to be a part of all of it.

[+] gdubs|5 years ago|reply
I’m with you. As soon as that page loaded I had warm flashbacks to my first days exploring the early web with Netscape. Incredibly magical time.
[+] Aeolun|5 years ago|reply
I don’t think I had any feelings of nostalgia related to this at all, even though it must have been about when I started using the web. I guess I was still too young to get really attched to it.
[+] masswerk|5 years ago|reply
Great! For even better results, please, set the background-color to `#C0C0C0`. (Netscape default. However, I'm not sure, if this was also the default on Windows, as well.)

Compare this bookmarklet: https://www.masswerk.at/bookmarklets/netscapify/

[+] ArtWomb|5 years ago|reply
Agreed. Blue text on white background is jarring. And I was wondering what the original Netscape Grey was!

Argh. Hoping "Godzilla vs Kong" reviews were going to be better. When will Hollywood learn the secret to a good kaiju film = less humans, more monsters ;)

[+] mambodog|5 years ago|reply
You can experience this on an (emulated) 68k Mac in your browser using Oldweb.Today: https://oldweb.today/?browser=ns3-mac#http://68k.news/
[+] reaperducer|5 years ago|reply
"Sorry, OldWeb.today can not run in this emulator in your current browser. Please try the latest version of Chrome or Firefox to use this emulator."

Funny that an emulated Mac hates Safari.

[+] debo_|5 years ago|reply
First impression: "Wow, this warms my heart."

Second impression: instinctively tries scrolling with trackpad _help why isn't it working_

This really made my day, thank you for sharing it.

[+] biggieshellz|5 years ago|reply
Oh wow -- this takes me back to when I first experienced the graphical Internet on a Macintosh IIsi! Thanks!
[+] Yhippa|5 years ago|reply
My favorite part by far is when you click on a link you see just the plain text of the article sans distractions.

Edit: also it shows a few key news articles with related articles. This means I'm not infinitely scrolling which is nice.

[+] DavidPeiffer|5 years ago|reply
>My favorite part by far is when you click on a link you see just the plain text of the article sans distractions.

You may also like http://lite.cnn.com/en

It's so refreshing to have pages load instantly. Websites get so bogged down with loading resources from 12 different places. It'd be nice if a static webpage was the default and every change that slowed down loading was explicitly laid out to stakeholders in terms of marginal load time and resources required.

[+] artembugara|5 years ago|reply
I'm curious where the data get fetched from. The Author mentions that Mozilla Readability and SimplePie are used.

Readability to parse the content. SimplePie to fetch the data (I assume). Dat from RSS feeds?

In case you want to make something similar, I recently wrote a blog on where you could get news data for free [1]

(self-promo) I'd recommend to take a look at my Python package to mine news data from Google News [2]. Also, in 3 days we're releasing an absolutely free News API [3] that will support ~50-100k top stories per day.

[1] https://blog.newscatcherapi.com/an-ultimate-list-of-open-sou...

[2] https://github.com/kotartemiy/pygooglenews

[3] https://newscatcherapi.com/free-news-api

[+] gripfx|5 years ago|reply
Interview with the founder on the Register[0]

[0] https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/29/google_news_netscape_...

[+] k1m|5 years ago|reply
Thanks for the link. Technical part from that interview:

> On a technical level, the site obtains stories through the existing Google News RSS feed, which are then processed with some PHP trickery. "Google News has a very nice RSS feed, for each topic, language and country. So I thought I could connect to that feed, and write some code to simplify the result way down to extremely basic HTML, targeting only tags available in the HTML 2.0 specification from 1995," said Malseed.

> "So I used a PHP library called SimplePie to import the feed, and wrote some PHP code to simplify the results into a nice front page, using Netscape 2.0.2 on my 1989 Mac SE/30 to make sure it loaded fast and looked nice. The articles were a little more difficult, because they are on all sorts of different news sites with different formatting.

> "So I found that Mozilla has an open-source library called Readability, which is what powers Firefox's reader mode. I used the PHP port of this, and then wrote a proxy that renders articles through Readability, and then I added some code to strip the results down even further to extremely basic HTML."

[+] willchis|5 years ago|reply
This is similar to a site that I built! http://feather.news

Best viewed on mobile and you can optionally use a version without images by clicking the link at the top right of the page.

[+] bobajeff|5 years ago|reply
I like the layout of yours better. But I still like 68k's feature of giving you the readable version of the stories too.
[+] artembugara|5 years ago|reply
I like it. I'd love to chat about newsapi.org

Let me know if you have some time

[+] rkagerer|5 years ago|reply
What a breath of fresh air. I forgot how human-friendly the internet was before ads invaded.
[+] jrmann100|5 years ago|reply
I know I'm the only one who's reading news on the Kindle Voyage, but I'm definitely adding this to my bookmarks list on the e-reader. Super cool!
[+] spiritplumber|5 years ago|reply
This is beautiful. Everything should have a text mode like this.

I should make it an option for my own site, and I will! Thank you for the inspiration.

[+] whalesalad|5 years ago|reply
This is great. I have been looking for a "world news in the style of techmeme" that isn't the drudge report.
[+] StreamBright|5 years ago|reply
And this is how the web supposed to be.
[+] FullMetalBitch|5 years ago|reply
And it looks fine and is perfectly functional. Maybe just tweak the background.
[+] knodi123|5 years ago|reply
I didn't know the <small> tag was that old! Also thought a page from back then would be ascii instead of utf8.

(Also, I thought every page from that era was required to have at least one <blink> tag, and possibly an "Under Construction" image.)

[+] dredmorbius|5 years ago|reply
I assembled a similar decruftifier for the Washington Post specifically, using html-xml-utils (https://www.w3.org/Tools/HTML-XML-utils -- and some sed/awk) to strip only core article content & metadata (head, byline, dateline). Result was typically <5% of original HTML.

I've come to realise that most online commercial publishing does not even use bold within body text, giving another filter trigger for stripping cruft.

[+] drewg123|5 years ago|reply
Comparing this to the normal Google News, we have a load time of 450ms vs 6500ms on a fairly beefy workstation. I have a new bookmark..
[+] rocky1138|5 years ago|reply
I would love it if this kicked off a "slow food" web movement where we all built a ton of services usable by retro hardware.