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fat-chunk | 4 years ago

It's really sad to see that even hacker news has now been plagued by sinophobic racism

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anu7df|4 years ago

I interpret the parent comment "Chinese don't want to be Chinese" as no one (including Chinese citizens) wants to be under the thumb of an authoritarian government. Not a racist comment.

gfaure|4 years ago

Don't confuse anti-PRC sentiment with anti-Chinese sentiment. It is a classic strategy to conveniently conflate the two only when the CPC is being criticised.

tidenly|4 years ago

Surely you should be aiming this at the person who said "Even chinese don't want to be Chinese" - conflating the two, and not the person pointing out how incorrect that statement sounds.

pyinstallwoes|4 years ago

Both points are over generalizations. It's obviously a complex issue. I've been to Taiwan, I've been to Hong Kong, and from my conversations with all types of people the best I can understand as a foreigner is that the Government is not what being Chinese is about. It's about the culture at the end of the day. You could argue that some population of Chinese have kept a certain culture present from a particular time. There's a lot of what I was told (I can't really know) traditional culture in Taiwan. There was an interesting mix of old and new in Hong Kong. It's sad to see so much conflict as a result of weaponizing identity and heritage. The stuff of lore is what makes any story interesting, and we destroy it with inept government structures.

snakeboy|4 years ago

See also:

> [Critiques of Israeli government]

> "It's really sad to see ... plagued by anti-semitism".

pdpi|4 years ago

I think you missed a subtlety there, the point is not even the Chinese (people) want to be Chinese (citizens).

It’s not sinophobic to say that the Chinese government and the CCP are messed up. I don’t doubt that many Chinese people would rather they weren’t subjected to that regime.

That is entirely separate from hatred/fear/negativity toward Chinese people and/or their culture.

1996|4 years ago

This, so much. Everything I say is always taken as apologism, while I just like my country.

If a US born american like his country, it's patriotism.

If a China born naturalized american likes both of his countries, it's proof of CCP manipulation.

Impossible to win.

bryanrasmussen|4 years ago

>If a US born american like his country, it's patriotism.

I'm familiar with lots of narratives that say an American who loves America has been brainwashed by the system. Or is in a position of privilege and is thus not familiar with the problems inherent in the system.

nuller|4 years ago

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