[stonesweep]

> Official contact tracing in the US is a complete dud and had negligible impact on the spread.

I am a US citizen, I simply have lost confidence in any promise made by any tech company in regards to my privacy and roll back to War Games - the only winning move is not to play. We have lost all confidence that any data shared will be kept private, there is little oversight or penalty for abuse of it.

[srswtf123]

I agree 110% -- The best solution is to stop using their products; put down the smartphones, remove FAANG & co. from your life entirely.

You end up less lonely, less depressed, less tracked, and oddly, somehow now I feel better informed.

[selimthegrim]

Po-Shen Loh's NOVID app from CMU held some promise.

[davidthewatson]

Indeed, Novid did have promise. Po's work should be celebrated.

The problem is that Novid depends on self-report. Self-report is not reliable, or else we'd have seen success around this kind of self-reported contact tracing, which does not model reality accurately at scale.

The problem is that a surveillance network is perfect for this kind of healthcare application, where the balance of power is toward the invisible surveiller and does not depend on the surveilled being compliant.

[pydry]

I think a lot of people think this way even outside of tech.