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trengrj | 4 years ago

If you want a small NAS in a similar form factor I'd recommend Helios64 5-bay NAS https://kobol.io/. It is an Arm64 board runs mainline Armbian. Also comes with 2.5Gbit networking and a built in UPS battery.

I don't understand why people who care about security and have linux knowledge would use Synology/QNAP. They are both proprietary, often exposed to the internet, and packed full of so many features that they are consistently full of vulnerabilities (SynoLocker/QLocker etc).

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hedora|4 years ago

I use synology because I tried many alternatives, and none worked out of the box.

I finally got one (SmartOS; I also tried FreeNAS) working, but I used the intel chip with a timebomb clock line for the build.

Then, I gave up. 4 hours after the synology was home, I was much farther along than I’d gotten in a month on the other machine.

I’d definitely pay a premium for a supported open source + hardware NAS combo that supported docker, vm’s and offsite client-side encrypted backup (with dedupe/compression) out of the box. Also, I want it to draw < 10W, excluding disks.

Until then, synology wins, and isn’t a hobby project.

gh02t|4 years ago

iXSystems, the company that develops FreeNAS (now called TrueNAS), makes their own hardware for it with full support and decent prices. TrueNAS has also come a very long way in the past couple of years, before it used to be a bit rough around the edges but it's now a very solid competitor especially running on their hardware.

The one potential downside is it's not as beginner friendly as Synology or QNAP UI-wise, but I actually like that about it as I'm not a fan of the UI on either.

NikolaNovak|4 years ago

This. I've tried most solutions under the sun, but now that I'm 40 with kids, mucking up with my storage is just not how I spend my weekends anymore.

syshum|4 years ago

Unraid is what you are looking for then

tremon|4 years ago

Well, I did buy a QNAP TS-419P many years ago. It's still running mainline Debian, that was why I bought it. I would have replaced it with a newer model if the new ones were similarly open, but they're not.

Seriously considering a Helios64, once they get their supply issues resolved.

3v1n0|4 years ago

I also got it one but it's just something I use to run a container to manage my nextcloud and other stuff...

manigandham|4 years ago

Synology is proprietary UI but it’s just using Linux raid. That’s how you can recover if anything happens to the hardware.

Hamuko|4 years ago

Does that apply to SHR as well?

paol|4 years ago

That seems perfect spec-wise. Would you mind giving a quick review of the acoustic characteristics of the case?

I'm looking to move away from a QNAP box, and one of the driving reasons is the horrible "hard-plastic hard-mount everything" design that couldn't amplify hard drive noise any more if they'd done it on purpose.

(The other reasons are that I'd rather manage ZFS myself, and the need for more than gigabit ethernet)

xattt|4 years ago

Another suggestion for QNAP owners is to simply replace the firmware with a regular Linux distribution. This is what I’ve done and haven’t looked back.

JeremyNT|4 years ago

Is this commonly possible? I know some of their devices can run a normal distribution, but when I looked into this recently I didn't see confirmation for current models.

azdle|4 years ago

I _desperately_ want something like this, but in a 1U 4-drive form factor. If someone is working on something like this, _please_ let me know. It doesn't even have to be an RK3399 based system, just something that works with a mainline (or near-mainline) linux distro and will host an SMB server & DLNA server.

mbreese|4 years ago

Why not a 1U Supermicro server? They have options that are short depth or with Atom processors. If you just want a 4 disk 1U server, those would be a good option.

Or is it a question of budget? If that’s the case, what about a used server (like those from UNIXSurplus)?

Or is it a question of power? If that’s the case, then... I don’t quite know in that case.

thinkmassive|4 years ago

Helios64 looks amazing but they've been sold out for a while.

You had my hopes up for a moment there, haha

patentatt|4 years ago

Seems to be so common with these niche SBCs and accessories. They look so cool, but are unobtainable. People sometimes complain about the over-use of RasPis, but one thing they have going for them is that you can always find them available from many different sources.

fonkyyack|4 years ago

I personally have a qnap Nas because I wanted something cheap. I did not enabled all the fonction and I will definetly not enable all the "internet functions".

boromi|4 years ago

Wow very cool. I wish there was an optional 10gbe interface. Otherwise, I wonder how they are able to make this soo affordable.

ksec|4 years ago

Thank You, never heard of it before. The bundle price is really good for a 5-Bay, Battery UPS NAS.

Unfortunately I only want 2 Bay.

squarefoot|4 years ago

Many 2 bay NAS cost close to that figure, so it's still convenient, and more bays are never enough. The only two problems with the Helios, which I monitor since last year, is that it appears to be not 100% stable yet, although most problems reported in the forums seem related to excessive clock speed (which can be throttled down), and being always out of stock. It's a revolutionary product given the price and features (how many noticed it also has a small UPS on board?), therefore as soon as a new production batch is ready it goes away almost immediately.

ed25519FUUU|4 years ago

The built-in UPS feature is very cool.

icedchai|4 years ago

It's very cool, until something goes wrong with it. IMHO you are better off getting an external UPS and putting some other stuff on it.

zmix|4 years ago

Nice box, but "Out of Stock". And no IPMI, as it seems.