[tr14]

My great grand mother died from lung cancer and never smoked one cigarette in her life. She was a humble and very sober woman. (no alcohol, no tobacco or drugs, just her medication). The reason, why she died of lung cancer is, that the area, where she grow up, was near coal mine & chemistry plant. LVL 89 tho, nice age anyways. RIP Grandma. On the other hand, my neighbor from the rural area, where my mother was born & raised, lived all the way up to LVL 93. He had one shot of hard liquor every day and smoked exactly 3 cigarettes a day. His calm live and routines granted him a superior lifespan. He died from age, calmly in the bed, with relative good health for his level.

[SketchySeaBeast]

> His calm live and routines granted him a superior lifespan.

That's just conjecture on your part. Some people are lucky, others are not, it's not always due to behavior. 3 cigarettes a day is also extremely low - the average is apparently 14[1] right now.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2018/p0118-smoking-rates-...

[zadler]

It’s low but the risk of smoking one a day isn’t 1/10 of smoking 10 a day, it’s probably much higher.

https://www.bmj.com/content/360/bmj.j5855

[gwbas1c]

> 3 cigarettes a day is also extremely low

The addictive nature of cigarettes makes it very hard to stick to 3 a day.

[techrat]

> His calm live and routines granted him a superior lifespan.

My mean, spiteful and horrendous grandmother in law was nothing but pure bile and hatred. Every day she lived her life in perpetual outrage and never had a moment's peace.

She lived to 96.

[PedroBatista]

She probably outsourced the hate and outrage to those around her, inwards she was 100% peace.

[cm2012]

Yep. My wife's grandma is probably the most evil human being I've ever met in person, and she's very healthy now at 88.

[monopoledance]

Those people may actually be able to offload stress, anxiety and worries...

I fear most evil folks sleep well at night.

[xroche]

> was near coal mine

In Europe, coal typically kills more than 20,000 people _every year_: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/jun/12/european...

[ And yet Germany and Belgium decided to end nuclear energy because people are afraid of the "risks", but keep coal plants. ]

[CaptArmchair]

> Belgium

Belgium doesn't have coal plants.

Belgium's nuclear plants are/were scheduled to close because they've surpassed their initial lifespan. An extension was added but that has almost been surpassed as well. These are plants which have been in operation for 40-50 years.

Replacements aren't being build because they are "unsafe". They aren't being build because it's economically not viable to do so in a country like Belgium. Not at this moment in time, not in the past 20 to 30 years.

Belgium's major energy operators are also largely controlled by French energy conglomerates such as ENGIE.

[bildung]

At least for Germany this isn't true, both nuclear and coal are phased out with about the same end date.

[CorrectHorseBat]

We're not keeping coal in Belgium. The last coal mine in Belgium closed in 1992, the last coal power plant closed in 2016.

[hkt]

Germany and Belgium have cultural hangups about nuclear that relate to the fact most Germans (and probably also Belgians) felt they'd be the first to die if there was a nuclear war. Not that this excuses them from being reasonable, of course, but it is worth keeping in mind just how occupied by the threat of nuclear annihilation many people in those countries were, and for how long.

[vcxy]

I grew up in WV. I have many friends from near the DuPont plant. We like to joke about how we grew up drinking dupont water...kind of morbid though since it's pretty true.

[secondcoming]

LVL?

[meepmorp]

Level. Like in a video game. Don’t you think of the lifespans of your friends in family and terms of video game levels?

[dmichulke]

In a way life is about maxing skills and avoiding perma-death.

[eplanit]

Me too... some mysterious synonym for "years"?