Playlist for iOS

[parhamn]

FYI, There is a really cool design project here: https://refresh.study/ that also explored the 'playlist' feature.

I've been building a browser the past year (https://synth.app), and have learned a few things from it (including implementing media players like this). Really makes you realize how little our browsers are currently doing for us.

[warpech]

I can see a lot of interesting new ideas in Synth! "Smart Bookmarks & History" sound great on their own but "Auto-Roam" is what nailed my own itch. Are you still working on it?

[danielmeskin]

Sorry if this was asked already but is Synth chromium based?

[pierrec]

Stock pictures never cease to amaze. What a mind-bending collage: https://brave.com/static-assets/images/optimized/playlist-pl...

[slg]

No better place to learn how to make eggs Benedict than on a plane.

[snug]

Wendover productions on Youtube uses a lot of really great stock photos in his video essays, they really never cease to amaze me

[asadlionpk]

This will get shut down very soon. I am actually surprised Apple even approved this.

I essentially built the same thing for myself (music player that combines/searches multiple sources, use youtube-dl server to stream optimized mp3 only), I had to skip app store and sideload it.

[xuki]

Apple reviewer likely didn’t notice the new features. They spend minutes on each app and this feature is not very obvious, especially when it’s just a feature in a big browser app.

This clearly violates YouTube TOS and Brave knows it, I wonder what’s their plan is.

[rideontime]

Even if, hypothetically, Apple doesn't pull it, how long until Google blocks it? Is Brave big enough to be sued if they continue circumventing Youtube's terms?

[xsmasher]

Every app that does background play of youtube videos seems to get shut down shortly after gaining any traction.

[echelon]

Isn't it about time we asked what the hell is wrong with this picture? You can't even use your own device to consume content the way you want.

The DOJ needs to break apart Apple. If not the DOJ, then Epic's court case.

Apple literally became the monster in their 1984 commercial.

[goodcjw2]

This seems to be bypassing all the ads in YT? Basically we can get Youtube Premium for free here? Wondering what's the legal implication for brave.com to make such as app?

edit: I could be completely over thinking this.

[AlexandrB]

Youtube-dl also gives you this ability. My sense is that Google doesn't like it but doesn't want to deal with the PR fallout of banning tools like youtube-dl at the moment. Perhaps if this gets popular enough Google will do something.

[AvocadoCake]

Brave already blocks ads on YT (on mobile and desktop).

[goodcjw2]

Actually, I should have catch up a bit about what brave is. For those who have just heard about this like me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG981gXqdU4

[qzw]

From the FAQ:

> Brave Playlist supports most open web standards. However, it does not currently support Digital Rights Management (DRM) tools or media delivery services (e.g. Spotify or Netflix).

Other than that, seems like a handy app, especially now that travel is on the upswing again.

[johnthuss]

If this gains any kind of traction I will be shocked if Google doesn't squash its ability to access YouTube videos. Google can't be ok with this.

[digianarchist]

Offline videos is a YouTube premium feature.

[luffapi]

Neat. It feels like there’s space for browsers to “browse” non-html content. This is a great example. So much of my browsing is media based, it makes sense that the web browser should have media controls and features.

I wonder if generating/editing media could also use some love. For instance, basic audio/video editing so you can clean stuff up before you post it.

[musicale]

> Audio and Video can be saved for offline mode, for playback when you don’t have internet, but they cannot be downloaded and moved to a separate device.

The missing download and export function seems like an obvious and very annoying omission.

Hopefully it can be added in the future.

[hkh28]

It is probably to make it harder for Google/Apple to remove the app, or for Youtube to justify blocking the app from working with their videos.

[whobutsb]

Are you able to drop in your own local MP3 files to Playlist? I miss having an offline audio player not connected to a streaming service. Anyone have any Android recommendations?

[devmunchies]

I think creating BAT was one of the smartest things Brave did. How is that relevant?

It has > $2billion market cap. They don't need Google's money like Mozilla.

This feature allows you to download a youtube video and watch it offline. It also lets you play it in background mode so you can listen to audio with the screen off. Google doesn't let you do that unless you pay for youtube.

And on the bottom of this announcement, I see a link to another Brave project, a search engine: https://brave.com/search/

[CharlesW]

> I think creating BAT was one of the smartest things Brave did. […] This feature allows you to download a youtube video and watch it offline.

That feature is unrelated to BAT.

Also: Brave has a built-in functionality to violate YouTube's ToS (sections 5B and 5C)?

[rideontime]

I don't understand this. Who is buying BAT, and why, to make it worth two billion dollars? Just speculators like the other cryptocurrencies?

[gowld]

Is that $2billion in spendable money for Brave? If people use BATs to pay publishers, that's not Brave's money.

[xNeil]

I used to use Brave a lot, not so much now. They seem to be trying to become a privacy-friendly alternative to Google, which I respect, but I'm not sure why, I thoroughly dislike their Brave Ads.

Not because their (edit:they're) intrusive, but they're basically saying "We're going to block ads from Google, but we're going to show you our own ads, because ours are privacy-friendly!" They are adding a subscription feature though, so that might hopefully be a solution.

[jarenmf]

But you can easily disable the ads if you don't like them

[Apocryphon]

It seems pretty common for tech companies/projects touting openness and freedom becoming that which they fight against. Witness all of the issues Firefox have fallen prey over the years. I remember a decade ago when Ubuntu first added Amazon integration into search results. CyanogenMod losing its way, the company behind it commercializing it and signing the partnership with Microsoft. Seems like it happens a lot.

[layoutIfNeeded]

I thought the AppStore didn't allow apps that download videos from YouTube:

>5.2.3 Audio/Video Downloading: Apps should not facilitate illegal file sharing or include the ability to save, convert, or download media from third-party sources (e.g. Apple Music, YouTube, SoundCloud, Vimeo, etc.) without explicit authorization from those sources.

So either they have permission from YouTube, or will be promptly removed from the store....

[taylodl]

You can't share or convert the media. Technically you're saving it, but it's only accessible on the device on which it was saved and only using the software (Brave browser) that saved it. It's an interesting grey area. Hopefully the folks at Brave have already talked this through with Apple and Google and have their support.

[encryptluks2]

I think this is funny since NewPipe does this already and is open source.

[quick_brown_fox]

brave is open source too https://github.com/brave/brave-ios/

[draw_down]

This is a wonderful feature, including the ability to use picture-in-picture with YouTube videos.