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plexicle | 4 years ago

You might be right but your last sentence is the reason why people are apprehensive about sharing their work and writing more articles. There's no need for it.

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jrsala|4 years ago

There is no judgment in what I said. DK is a fact of life and we will all experience it at some point. I know I have, and quite badly.

I wish when I was younger someone had told me "look, you don't really know what you're talking about, here's how things really work". If no one tells you, how long does it take for you to realize and how much time do you waste thinking you know what you don't know? Again, the author is at the start of their learning journey. I'm not saying they're a bad person or a hopeless case.

And finally, people should not be apprehensive about sharing their work in general, but I think they should be when writing articles that purport to teach others.

graderjs|4 years ago

Okay, "You don't know what you're talking about." :) There is a clear judgement on your part.

For me my own recent DK-moment was I'm learning a foreign language and in a shop asked for a simple item with a simple phrase, sure I had it right. They had no idea what I meant and I got angry because I thought you were just trolling me. Relating situation to a friend who let me know my accent was just wrong, so hard to understand. What got me is sometimes my accent good, sometimes it's not, day by day. But I was so sure, because my level is quite low. Haha

For you, with your judgement, you don't know whether it's true or not they are in DK, additionally you yourself may be mistaken in your JS criticism, it could be you that has DK, and they are correct.

Also, "You don't know what you're talking about.", OK, so, " this is how it works": generally when you criticize someone as doing X, and then backpaddle on pushback to say you do the same, you should recount a specific instance where you did X "and quite badly" because that shows you're genuine, and willing to be vulnerable, as you have tried to make the other person vulnerable by invoking the criticism you, by that omission, seem reluctant to invoke upon yourself. :) ;p xx

For me, a recent one where I didn't do that was a friend was telling me about their job offer progress, and salary negotiation. They wanted Y, but didn't say, and company was offering less. I told them how they should just ask for what they want, and try to get it. Friend pushed back, and got upset. Fast forward to same friend, next job offer, this time I shared a story how I hadn't pushed for my preferred salary in a previous job, then told how I felt not enjoying the job and feeling I was not getting fair reward each work day. Much better conversational outcome, friend more receptive to advice this time. Friend ended up with high salary they were happy with.

Better yet lead with the story of your mistake, tho that's hard to do. Either way, sharing your own makes you seem more credible in trying to bring someone up not put them down, shows you speak from experience, and engages someone emotionally into feeling for you rather than just being defensive :) ;p xx

dehrmann|4 years ago

> I wish when I was younger someone had told me "look, you don't really know what you're talking about, here's how things really work".

To which all youth ever just roll their eyes.

astrobe_|4 years ago

I'll dare to ask : but is there a need for articles made with half-baked knowledge?