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nick_kline | 4 years ago

Do you see Tesla as a snakeoil company today when it comes to their batteries, drivetrain, range, reliability? I wouldn't put Nikola and Tesla in the same categories. Tesla has one serious issue imho that they can only fix with refunds of the cost, that their auto-driving cars probably won't get there in the next 5+ years, so all the people that paid up to 10k for that will have to get some compensation.

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SigmundA|4 years ago

No I don't however I was much more skeptical of them in the past and also the math still lets me know Elon's timelines are lets say "optimistic", however the math also told me they where not completely full of it vs Nikola which is a complete sham.

For instance the Semi being announced in 2017 I said no way, but their range numbers where not outlandish, they just conveniently left off weight numbers for the tractor and cost of the battery seemed to high at the time. What I missed was how quickly battery cost are coming down and energy density going up, however they still haven't delivered a tractor yet so...

Tesla has a real tech lead, not sure if they can keep it and they are way over valued stock wise.

Nikola complete BS.