"Irssi does not take a political stance"

[vore]

I think it's a little ironic that someone who hasn't seemed to have committed to the codebase of irssi for years has decided to come in and put their foot down in such an aggressive way.

Funny, I feel like I JUST saw something like this happen somewhere else...

[waon]

It's quite concerning that ailin-nemui, who made the prior commit migrating to Libera currently isn't listed as part of the irssi organization[1]. According to GitHub stats, this is the person behind most of the code in irssi[2].

[1]: https://github.com/orgs/irssi/people

[2]: https://github.com/irssi/irssi/graphs/contributors

[dvfjsdhgfv]

We all saw it in many other places.

[FeepingCreature]

I don't understand what's supposed to be political here.

We're not getting off Freenode because we don't like Andrew Lee's politics, we do because we have no faith at all in his skill as a network operator.

[simlevesque]

Some people who have an agenda against the "left" feel like everything is a witchhunt nowadays.

[labster]

Andrew Lee is a pretender to be Crown Prince of Korea, which kinda sorta makes it state seizure of community property. But I think OP probably meant it in the sense of taking a controversial stand... which it wasn’t until this commit.

[pimlottc]

The missing context seems to be that is a revert of an earlier commit last week [0] that switched the "default" network used in the help documentation from freenode to libera.chat.

0: https://github.com/irssi/irssi/commit/1ba48840a112dfacf13cbb...

[gerikson]

As a long time irssi user and fan, this revert disturbed me, so I joined #irssi (on Libera, natch) to ask about it.

Log of my interaction with Geert: https://paste.debian.net/1198991/. It's been edited to remove join/parts.

My take: the irssi community has not made a decision to move from Freenode to Libera. The commit pointing the default network from Freenode to Libera was thus premature. The revert title could have been worded better.

[apple4ever]

Yup I think the problem here is the commit.

All it had to say was "reverting as this was premature".

Even better "irc.example.com" to never make it a problem again.

[josephcsible]

Yikes. That commit isn't "not [taking] a political stance"; it's taking the political stance of supporting Andrew Lee's hostile takeover.

[waon]

I wonder if this is the official stance of the project itself, since this commit was authored by a person who hadn't made a single commit for more than 5 years.

https://github.com/irssi/irssi/commits?author=GeertHauwaerts

[LangerJan]

I don't get the general "we are not political" idea.

Everything is political. The conscious decision to stay put is as political as everything else.

What they want to say is: "We don't want to get involved in this and save our face while doing so"

[josephcsible]

> Everything is political.

I wouldn't go that far. Irssi could have not taken a political stance, by ignoring what happened and not committing last week's change. But now that that's done, reverting it was political too. You can avoid a political issue, but once you ring the bell, you can't un-ring it.