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snegu | 4 years ago

I'm curious - is it an altruistic act to leave this functionality enabled? I'm all for making wifi access easier for people.

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Retric|4 years ago

It’s so “smart” TV’s etc can send data home even if you don’t connect them to the internet. Longer term expect random devices you own to inject even more advertising into your daily life.

philsnow|4 years ago

Amazon is going to sell access to Sidewalk to e.g. TV manufacturers (and anybody else), making money off of your internet connection.

Before Sidewalk, if a device manufacturer wanted to be able to get sensor/environmental/etc data back to the mothership, it had to either pair to a phone with bluetooth, use wifi (needs creds), or include a 2g modem with a SIM (pretty expensive). A customer who doesn't see a need for that device to have that connection just won't pair / give wifi creds, and the 2g modems/SIMs are expensive enough to keep them out of most devices.

In a world where Sidewalk is a viable option, a lot more devices will be sending whatever information they like that they can sample about you out of your house. Sure, it makes sense to carefully read the privacy policy when you're buying a echo dot or ring whatever, but are you going to be so careful when you're buying a toaster?

This episode of black mirror sucks.

dec0dedab0de|4 years ago

I didn't even think of this. That is terrifying.

foobiekr|4 years ago

It is exactly this. It just takes one idiot in the neighborhood to now defeat my "don't connect them to the network" approach to not sharing my data.

shagie|4 years ago

Various use case stories...

You've got an Alexa, your neighbor has a Ring. The network goes out on your neighbor's house. The Ring can then use your Alexa provided sidewalk network to send a notification to your neighbor about a package or whatever.

Someone makes Tile like product that can use Sidewalk to track its location. The sidewalk extends its range and accuracy.

Right now, it really appears to be just Ring devices that can make use of it.

This isn't a guest Wifi that arbitrary people can connect to... though as we saw with the Apple tags, people have quickly piggybacked other data on it.

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While I don't have any devices that extend the Sidewalk network, I've disabled it... just in case I do get one.

bitL|4 years ago

How do you know you really disabled it? What if it does the same as Google that was recording location data and then uploaded them right after you established a WiFi connection? What if Amazon devices would do that a few times a day without you noticing, and the "disable Sidewalk" button would just mean "do it less frequently"?

asdff|4 years ago

Just run a guest network with your existing router if you want to provide internet to strangers.

Animats|4 years ago

"People like you helping people like us help ourselves" - Processed World slogan.

thatguy0900|4 years ago

It's certainly altruistic to ad companies who don't want to pay for internet access for their devices