The big thing with this release is Leap now uses the same binaries as SUSE Enterprise, giving better support options. A good CentOS replacement for those still looking.
I can vouch for Leap being a great CentOS replacement. I switched to Suse around when Fedora 34 came out and I have turned into a huge fan. Converted my homelab to be completely Suse based and I have zero regrets.
> A good CentOS replacement for those still looking.
Unless your company requires you to use Microsoft Defender for Endpoint on Linux (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/defe...), which is supported on RHEL, CentOS, SLES, and a few others, but not openSUSE ("distributions [...] that are not explicitly listed are unsupported, even if they are derived from the officially supported distributions").
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t 15.3 based on SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP3 and supported until December 2022? (I may be mis-understanding SUSE releases..).
One of the things I liked about CentOS was not having to upgrade every x months/years.
You never hear much about OpenSuse or Suse, but whenever you do, users seem very happy with it. Is it just a perspective thing, or is there another reason why it isn't huge like Ubuntu or Fedora?
I am a Suse convert and I advocate loudly for it mostly because you don’t hear much about it, so passion compensates for mindshare. Yast, Zypper, microos (a transactional update rolling spin) are all fantastic products and I’m a huge fan of Tumbleweed gaming systems because you get all of the newest updates for Mesa, Vulcan, etc....and because of the openQA system things are generally better tested than they are in Arch.
Tumbleweed got Gnome 40 stable before Fedora 34 was released and it’s been rock solid for me since day 1. And updates are generally extremely safe because if an update breaks your system you can just rollback to a previous Btrfs snapshot with one command and a reboot, wait a bit and issues are fixed very quickly.
It's a nice OS, but my biggest pet peeve is that it doesn't come with h264 repos installed [0]. One has to first add them otherwise one won't be able to play most videos or music in your browser. Some configuration is therefore necessary and I can't just install it in 15 minutes then hand it over to the owner.
It's a pity because the fastest way to scare the average user away from Linux is to force them to open a shell in order to have a working setup. Hopefully that's something that'll change.
As a technical user, I enjoy it though. YaST is great for configuring many parts of the system, the documentation is great and it's stable. If Nix ever gets usable, I might give it a shot, but it's OpenSuse all the way for now [1]
openSUSE has a nice pacing, it's new enough to be a great platform but it's not changing so quickly you need a fresh installation every handful of months or you're constantly fixing things. The tooling is good as well, there are some aesthetic things I kind of dislike (like some of the config files in /etc should be a layer deeper, ATMO) but it works well and it's well made. Major upgrades tend to work and aren't that scary.
The transactional system versions (MicroOS and then TW can be installed as "transactional") are potentially game changers. The snapper integration with btrfs and grub makes a really compelling case if you've ever needed it; btrfs seems like it's getting closer and closer.
This is my interpretation: If you go back to when RHEL was spawned, there were sort of two distinct styles of Linux systems, they were very much and east coast and west coast sort of style. UNIX dorks may disagree with this, but SuSe has provided something more like a European style. They have tools for updating configuration files and they provide some opinions on how things should be run. Once you get used to it and in to it, it's nice.
> Checkout what opensuse is currently building here
Actually the service is completely open and cross-distro. Everybody can build anything for all major distros. In practice the majority is probably related to OpenSUSE.
I have built packages for OpenSUSE, Ubuntu and Arch. Just for myself if I needed to patch or try out something or I needed something not available in the standard distro repos.
Compared to the dnf, zypper feels slow because it doesn't support parallel package download. If you have a good network bandwidth it might be on under utilized. I'm also a Tumbleweed user and when doing a dup of full rebuild slowness is more noticeable.
In the past year I've deployed Leap on 5 different workstations and servers. Three of them with more complicated active directory logins, and pam_mount setups. I've also compiled and installed a variety of academic software that was otherwise challenging to get working on CentOS.
Overall I'm very happy with Leap, and Yast makes some of the more complicated things a lot more straightforward.
As a counterpoint, I experienced the exact opposite. I got tired of deb-based distros leaving me in package limbo if something went wrong. I'm sure there's an easy fix, or maybe the entire problem is fixed now, but I've been a very happy user of opensuse (and just suse before that) for a long time - well over 15 years now. I love their huge range of optional software repos. I can have a nice stable base system with only certain software bleeding edge.
[+] [-] stryan|4 years ago|reply
The big thing with this release is Leap now uses the same binaries as SUSE Enterprise, giving better support options. A good CentOS replacement for those still looking.
[+] [-] rubyist5eva|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] cesarb|4 years ago|reply
Unless your company requires you to use Microsoft Defender for Endpoint on Linux (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/defe...), which is supported on RHEL, CentOS, SLES, and a few others, but not openSUSE ("distributions [...] that are not explicitly listed are unsupported, even if they are derived from the officially supported distributions").
[+] [-] beermonster|4 years ago|reply
One of the things I liked about CentOS was not having to upgrade every x months/years.
[+] [-] schmorptron|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] rubyist5eva|4 years ago|reply
Tumbleweed got Gnome 40 stable before Fedora 34 was released and it’s been rock solid for me since day 1. And updates are generally extremely safe because if an update breaks your system you can just rollback to a previous Btrfs snapshot with one command and a reboot, wait a bit and issues are fixed very quickly.
[+] [-] Popegaf|4 years ago|reply
It's a pity because the fastest way to scare the average user away from Linux is to force them to open a shell in order to have a working setup. Hopefully that's something that'll change.
As a technical user, I enjoy it though. YaST is great for configuring many parts of the system, the documentation is great and it's stable. If Nix ever gets usable, I might give it a shot, but it's OpenSuse all the way for now [1]
[0]: https://en.opensuse.org/Additional_package_repositories
[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRlTISvjww
[+] [-] TheCondor|4 years ago|reply
openSUSE has a nice pacing, it's new enough to be a great platform but it's not changing so quickly you need a fresh installation every handful of months or you're constantly fixing things. The tooling is good as well, there are some aesthetic things I kind of dislike (like some of the config files in /etc should be a layer deeper, ATMO) but it works well and it's well made. Major upgrades tend to work and aren't that scary.
The transactional system versions (MicroOS and then TW can be installed as "transactional") are potentially game changers. The snapper integration with btrfs and grub makes a really compelling case if you've ever needed it; btrfs seems like it's getting closer and closer.
This is my interpretation: If you go back to when RHEL was spawned, there were sort of two distinct styles of Linux systems, they were very much and east coast and west coast sort of style. UNIX dorks may disagree with this, but SuSe has provided something more like a European style. They have tools for updating configuration files and they provide some opinions on how things should be run. Once you get used to it and in to it, it's nice.
[+] [-] nix23|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] gopaz|4 years ago|reply
It's really powerful.
Checkout what opensuse is currently building here; https://build.opensuse.org/monitor
[+] [-] usr1106|4 years ago|reply
Actually the service is completely open and cross-distro. Everybody can build anything for all major distros. In practice the majority is probably related to OpenSUSE.
I have built packages for OpenSUSE, Ubuntu and Arch. Just for myself if I needed to patch or try out something or I needed something not available in the standard distro repos.
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[+] [-] Arnavion|4 years ago|reply
[1]: https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:PinePhone
[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCrGi8hsGhY
[+] [-] nix23|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] COGlory|4 years ago|reply
Overall I'm very happy with Leap, and Yast makes some of the more complicated things a lot more straightforward.
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[+] [-] nix23|4 years ago|reply
But NetBSD would be the best match for your G5
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