[cheph]

> The idea that every able bodied person has to work is not supposed to be the way our society functions; at least not in the last 100,000 years.

So the fruit of who's labour exactly are they entitled to then? And can I also get in on that action? I would like to get something other people made without working any more. I don't see why I as a productive member of society should get less than someone who festers in their own bodily fluids.

[dang]

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for a different sort of internet here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: on closer look, it turns out you've been using HN primarily for ideological battle. We ban accounts that do that, regardless of which ideology they're battling for or against, because it's destructive of what this site is supposed to exist for. If you'd please not create accounts to break HN's rules with, we'd appreciate it.

[SketchySeaBeast]

> I don't see why I as a productive member of society should get less than someone who festers in their own bodily fluids.

Do you get less? Because if you're working and you're making less than someone on welfare you have to realize that the solution to that should be lifting you up, not dragging them down, right? As far as I'm aware, welfare isn't exactly comfortable.

[tonyedgecombe]

We have never paid people based on the amount of effort they put in.

[cheph]

Not sure who you represent (i.e. who "we" refers to in your message) but what you all do with your money is your choice, and I don't have any objections to whatever basis you all decide who you give your money to. But thanks for letting me know.

[dang]

Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things even worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[BeFlatXIII]

One of my close friends is a NEET because he uses a wheelchair and living in a rural town with his parents provides a floor for higher quality of life than moving to the city and trying to make it on his own (and navigate the various disability services). From what he’s told me, the kinds of jobs suggested by the unemployment and disability empowerment agencies are either hilariously irrelevant or make no logistical sense (long commutes that would require one of his parents to be a de-facto full-time chauffeur).

I haven’t spoken to him in ages. Hopefully the pandemic remote working boom has pushed things in his favor.