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ngoel36 | 4 years ago

I've never seen a company release incredible products with as high velocity as Stripe has over the last few years. Truly incredible. $1.50/user may sound outrageously expensive at first, but having seen all the engineering power it takes to build something like this at Uber...it's a totally fair price.

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recursive4|4 years ago

This is on the less expensive side of alternatives and doesn't require a minimum annual spend quota. They nailed this for startups, which I imagine is a combination response to / anticipation of regulatory requirements in Web3 apps.

grouseway|4 years ago

I'd put Twilio and Cloudflare in the same category for vision (expanding product offering) and execution.

benburleson|4 years ago

Yep, these are all examples of top engineering organizations.

jonplackett|4 years ago

I thought that too - until I tried to use Twillo for the first time in a couple of years. Holy crap they overcomplicated the interface! There's 3 or 4 levels of menu all shown at the same time in different directions. The docs are also way worse. The product is still great, but the interface is a complete mess!

jonplackett|4 years ago

Just what I was thinking.

Can Stripe hurry up and go public so I can buy some shares?

marvin|4 years ago

I have been thinking the same thing for some time now. Unfortunately, I wouldn't hold my breath. If they are able to stay private, they probably will. It's easier to build a business when you don't have to deal with the hassle and interference of public markets.

boringg|4 years ago

While that sounds like a great ... in all likelihood by the time it hits the public market most if not all the value will be extracted by the investors. With a branded company like this and equity markets as frothy as they are. I doubt there will be much value left for retail. Hopefully Im wrong though.

andy_ppp|4 years ago

If only Stripe would start a pre-ipo stock market. I guess only incumbent regulation prevents this, it’s not a technology problem.

arcturus17|4 years ago

You can buy it by proxy through funds or similar.

I've been eyeing Scottish Mortgage which despite the name is actually a high-tech fund packaged as a stock publicly traded in the London Stock Exchange. They hold Stripe among many other interesting investments.

vishnugupta|4 years ago

> $1.50/user may sound outrageously expensive at first, but having seen all the engineering power it takes to build something like this at Uber...it's a totally fair price.

I observed other teams struggle to build and have tackled challenges posed by identity, 1.5$/user is terrific price. Handling PII data in itself is a rabbit hole of engineering, product, and regulatory challenges. Let alone creating unique identities, matching, and what not.

andy_ppp|4 years ago

I know that KYC checks for Onfido we had no volume but we’re being charged around $10. Is the $1.50 for KYC or some lesser verification?

tyingq|4 years ago

That it's flat, and not a percentage, is a welcome surprise.

varispeed|4 years ago

Sadly out of reach for small projects. For example if you had a site with 100k users, you'd barely cover server costs with Ad Sense. $150k to check all of them? Would never happen :/ Maybe if they could pay for verification themselves?

jhugo|4 years ago

In many cases you don’t need to verify the identity of every user. You can use some signal to determine when you need ID, or require it for accessing certain products/features.

whimsicalism|4 years ago

If you're not offering a service for $, why do you need to verify identity?

What is the usecase?

This strikes me as classic HN bikeshedding.

spoonjim|4 years ago

You don’t need to verify a user’s real identity to serve them AdSense.

ankurpatel|4 years ago

The tech stack has something to do with it. Stripe has such high velocity because of Ruby on Rails.

0xFACEFEED|4 years ago

lol!

When are we as a community going to move past treating frameworks/languages/tools as a silver bullet? Frameworks don't make teams better; good management, technical leadership, and great infrastructure does.

arcturus17|4 years ago

I can't even find any evidence that they use Rails, and I'm pretty sure their outstanding velocity is minimally explained by their choice of tech stack.