[jp555]

If you think facts persuade people then you do not understand how people work. That delusion is what is frustrating you.

Facts require three things:

- observation (the temperature is 15°C),

- omission (the temp outside my home, omitting the rest of the universe), and

- trust (my thermometer is probably working).

Almost all disagreement about Facts is really about what we’re omitting & what we trust, not the observation.