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Multiple local news stations say the same thing verbatim [video]

186 points| garraeth | 4 years ago |youtube.com

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slg|4 years ago

As the video description says "Found the clip, sharing it here." We probably shouldn't link to someone who just stole this clip. On the other hand, the original clip was posted on Deadspin, which was mismanaged so badly that the entire staff ended up resigning roughly a year after they first posted this clip so I don't want to link to them either. So instead I will point to the author of the original article that contained this video, Timothy Burke [1][2]. He has an insane setup for capturing television broadcasts and does a lot of great work like this to highlight the most interesting and troubling aspects of news and sports television.

[1] - https://twitter.com/bubbaprog

[2] - https://www.patreon.com/bubbaprog

mistrial9|4 years ago

A stealth tech company in Calif-US created a system to record as many news casts as possible, 24-7, and invoke the closed-caption system to annotate it, and make it searchable. The company was sold in the early 2000's for $1B+ ; I have never seen the name in any tech news.

source: colleague was a core engineer there

tboyd47|4 years ago

Relevant here is an article by Huffington Post from 2012 criticizing a bill to update the Smith-Mundt Act which prohibited the US government from spreading propaganda to American citizens. The congressmen were complaining that if other countries can propagandize Americans, our government should have the same right. Their update would effectively remove that prohibition. The bill was swiftly passed and made law.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/propaganda-public-diplomacy_b...

kube-system|4 years ago

That bill was about "propaganda" like VOA... which is mandated to provide pretty damn fair and accurate news by other laws. Do you really think it should have remained (technically) illegal to click this link: https://www.voanews.com/ ?

In any case, that law/amendment has nothing to do with the video in this post. The reason all these stations are saying the same thing is not because of the government, it is because they are all owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group, and those who run that company wanted to push this message.

Honestly, the quality of "government propaganda" from VOA is better than what we get from Sinclair.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/voice-of-america/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sinclair-broadcast-group/

legitster|4 years ago

I worked with someone who worked in a local news studio. They told me that A LOT of the stories came pre-scripted.

Imagine you are a local news studio. You went from being responsible for 30 minutes of content a day to (often) upwards of two hours. And you only have a skeleton crew of on staff writers. To stretch the time, corporate offers a library of "stock" news stories and scripts to choose from.

I am told that local studios still have a lot of choice on what they use, but yeah, you're going to find a bunch of different studios grabbing the same script and not making any changes. Grain of salt.

Grieving|4 years ago

I used to work for a local newspaper that had been operated by the owner's family for generations. Our content was almost entirely unique, with the exception of a few filler stories we'd occasionally pull from another source (small stuff like "Spring Cleaning Tips"). The owner was proud that we were the last small newspaper in the state to resist being bought up by the owner of the capitol city's paper. We were well-respected in the area, and it was joked that the only time we lost a subscriber was when they passed away. The owner died a few years ago. Her sons didn't want to keep her "hobby project" afloat, so the paper finally was sold like all the others.

A couple of years later I wrote a script to consolidate stories from news sites across my state and display them with a nice UI, since I have family all over the place and want to keep up with what's going on. The majority of stories were duplicated across all of them, and local news had become the filler content. Even for stories of national importance, they can be interpreted in so many ways that you'd expect different people in different areas to have different analyses of the facts (which is what used to happen), but that doesn't exist anymore. With the pushback against "fake news", official news sources are the only acceptable source of information, and those are monopolized by an increasingly tiny minority of people. BTW I don't put "fake news" in quotes to say that it doesn't exist, but that it's a catch-all term for propaganda that goes against the official propaganda.

pmyteh|4 years ago

That's absolutely true. I understand that this particular piece is a step beyond that: a 'must run' segment that was mandated by corporate (something for which Sinclair has form).

cryptoz|4 years ago

That phenomenon has nothing to do with the linked video, though. They are totally different. One is news, from news agencies, the other is corporate right-wing propaganda from the owner of the station.

nisa|4 years ago

is this related to the sinclair broadcast group[1,2] or something else?

1:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group#2018_...

2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc

rejectedandsad|4 years ago

This is Sinclair, and I find it extremely funny that the right has taken this video to smear the rest of the MSM.

tboyd47|4 years ago

Thanks for the context!

chiefgeek|4 years ago

I've consciously not watched news for at least the last 20 years. I never watched it much before that. My life is better because of it. It's nothing but fear mongering.

FridayoLeary|4 years ago

I heard once that the ten o clock news is when the presenter starts with a "good evening" then explains why it's not.

clan|4 years ago

There is a recent Last Week Tonight covering sponsored content on local news stations which is worth a watch as well.

https://youtu.be/sIi_QS1tdFM

JohnTHaller|4 years ago

This is Sinclair Broadcasting Group which operates "a total of 193 stations across the country in over 100 markets (covering 40% of American households), many of which are located in the South and Midwest". It has had "must run" segments that all stations are required to run coming down from management that are generally right-wing talking points. In a John Oliver segment about Sinclair he stated that he "did not know it was possible to dip below the journalistic standards of Breitbart". Sinclair also struck deals with the Trump family and campaign to promote them during the 2016 campaign.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group

underseacables|4 years ago

I’ve always felt the media is generally reading from the same script. The News, locally or national, is more of a theatrical production than actual information.

dylan604|4 years ago

There's a difference from everyone quoting from an AP or Reuters new service. It's an entirely different thing when one media company forces it's stations to literally read from the exact same script, or worse, force a must-run segment produced externally from the local station.

MarkLowenstein|4 years ago

The classic Onion News Network videos are proof of your point. They're hilarious because while the content is ridiculous, the rhythm and theatrics are so clearly shared with every other newscast.

dougb5|4 years ago

Tangent, but to my American ear, the British English sense of "presenter" -- someone who reads the news -- seems to acknowledge the theatrical aspect of the role. More so than our "anchorperson" which seems to come from a game show.

CrazyPyroLinux|4 years ago

This type of thing is why I like shows like https://unfilter.show/ that not only are "independent" but also provide some meta-commentary on the production of the news stories themselves, rather than just using the headline to jump off onto whatever rant they feel like.

phkamp|4 years ago

The correct description for that kind of operation is not "news stations" but "propaganda outlets".

temp8964|4 years ago

Search this in Google News: "mass shootings surge as nation faces record high"

https://www.google.com/search?q=mass+shootings+surge+as+nati...

josefresco|4 years ago

The sites in those results (at least the 10 I checked) are all low quality blog spam. I suspect this is a politically motivated spam network created for the purpose of then using it as an example of media bias. Similar to what's happened in the parent story actually!

Quanttek|4 years ago

All these stations are owned by the Sinclair Group, a right-wing broadcasting corporation that is eroding the editorial independence of local stations in order to run segments like these or the "terrorism alert desk" [1]. John Oliver had a great video on them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc

Also, the following quote is just utter BS, trying to draw a distinction where there is none:

> Reminder: "While it is extremely dangerous to our democracy..." the US is actually a Constitutional Republic.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ3hb6LhPGo

desktopninja|4 years ago

Nothing new I guess. Its like youtube reposting lol

reureu|4 years ago

But is it extremely dangerous to our democracy?

jakeogh|4 years ago

The national 'news' players do the same thing, except they (must) bother to reword it.

swiley|4 years ago

Televised news is harmful manipulative crap. Just like most Google products you should avoid exposing yourself to it.

Of course I feel a little bad telling people this because it's pretty easy to avoid. Once TV news becomes unpopular they'll probably start shoving the same stuff into something that was previously mostly free of that kind of thing.

BuyMyBitcoins|4 years ago

The new strategy is to saturate social media with the same talking points ad-nauseam. It’s especially apparent on Reddit and Twitter.

ElViajero|4 years ago

> Televised news is harmful manipulative crap.

Not all news stations are the same, not all countries have the same TV news.

It is easy to just give up and think that you cannot trust anyone. But, the reality is that there is many journalists that care and try to create high quality news. To put them all in one bag is not fair, nor helpful.

coliveira|4 years ago

TV is a propaganda arm or the big companies. They will continue to spread the same type of content on other media, as long as they have money.

guscost|4 years ago

This also happens nationally, and on the web. Today one paraphrase is "Rumors are swirling about Dong Jingwei (董經緯)".

myfavoritedog|4 years ago

Not surprising since those are all Sinclair stations just repeating canned statements.

What’s really scary is when mainstream media outlets from a variety of corporate entities all repeat the exact same talking points that are exactly in sync with one political party.

eplanit|4 years ago

Newspapers do this a lot with Associated Press stories -- they're filler for what you don't have the capacity to create yourself. I don't really see a problem with it.

kube-system|4 years ago

They might repost news from the AP, but not opinion pieces.