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Another musician here...

I thought it was awesome what these Argentinians were doing when I moan about the processing power of my oldish MacBook Pro. And I was impressed with the phrasing of the raps.

But of the two examples I clicked through, one focused on violence and the other objectified women. But the sample size of people they profiled was tiny. Maybe if they sought out a female music producer they'd find the Argentinian Grimes?

[kragen]

I don't think there's any particular reason to expect women's music to be better than men's. There's a huge variety of music here; the Argentine music scene has been amazing since long before Conectar Igualdad (which Stallman mocked as Condenar a Maldad for its inclusion of Microsoft Windows).

I'm not sure what to recommend out of the current generation—it's too new for the gold dust to have settled out from the panning, and I have a hard time enjoying trap, reggaeton, and cumbia villera, even if it's Las Culisueltas—but I can strongly recommend Charly García, Fabiana Cantilo, Bersuit Vergarabat, Vanesa Butera, Los Fabulosos Cadillacs, Luis Alberto Spinetta, Maria Elena Walsh, Patricio Rey y los Redonditos de Ricota, Mercedes Sosa, Sumo, Pappo, Las Pelotas, Divididos, Damas Gratis, La Renga, and Soda Stereo (and anything else by Cerati). If you're more looking for the idiot/asshole type, you might enjoy Fito Paez or Andrés Calamaro (whose La Parte de Adelante really beats the entire trap/rap genre when it comes to demeaning women, on par with the Stones' Under my Thumb or Brown Sugar, but is an earworm in a way nothing from the Stones ever managed to be).

Going back further, of course Argentina is famous for tango music from the 01930s, which retains a small following and had a Tango Nuevo revival in the early 02000s with bands like Gotan Project, Supervielle, and Bajofondo; and Argentine folk music with its chacareras, chamamés, and candombe is an inexpressibly rich tradition that sounds like nothing else, today represented by musicians like el Chaqueño Palavecino and previously by Atahualpa Yupanqui.

(Looking at these lists there's a glaring gender imbalance; I think this is a result of machismo in Argentine culture denying opportunities to talented women rather than biases of my own.)

So if the new generation of trap musicians achieve great things, I'd look for the causes more in the century of musical excellence that preceded them rather than in the excellent Huayra GNU/Linux or the rest of Conectar Igualdad.

[hdb2]

> when I moan about the processing power of my oldish MacBook Pro

I'm glad I'm not the only one that felt humbled by that very same thing! I frequently find myself focused on why my machine can't run the latest-and-greatest piece of music software, when I really should be focusing on making music with the tools I have available.