As someone who lost two parents by 60, to alcohol, I hope John’s passing can serve as a reminder to those struggling that today is a great day to get sober. There is no shame in the fact that you’re an alcoholic or any other dependency you’re facing. What you’re feeling is real, difficult to overcome, but not insurmountable.
There’s an AA meeting near you that’s probably happening in a few hours. And, if AA isn’t your thing, there are other alternatives as well. I hope you can find a way to make it there, and begin the journey you deserve to live a long, healthy, fulfilling life.
question : is your premise based around the fact that the coroner's report cited chronic alcohol related injury, or the testimony of his friends or family?
My mother's autopsy and subsequent coroner's testimony stated that she had alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver, indications of alcohol-enabled pancreatitis, and cardiovascular evidence of alcohol abuse..
thing is -- I had lived with her and taken care of her for 20+ years. She hadn't touched alcohol during that time. She stated that before that time that she had been an occasional light social drinker -- and her social community backed her up on that conclusion; there was no real evidence of alcohol abuse in her life.
She had other vices; she smoked until death. She didn't drink.
She died at 65.
So, I ask because I no longer trust coroner's reports wholeheartedly. I think they intend well, and I think they're probably roughly accurate about the state of the body at death -- but I think they probably miss a lot of nuance and probably come up with a lot of shoddy predictions regarding 'lived lifestyle'.
P.S. if you ended up curious as to why she had all that internal injury -- she had a terrible fight with necrotizing fasciitis on one of her legs after an injury during gardening from a rose thorn and subsequent infection earlier in her life -- her ICU stay was extremely long and filled with experimental drugs/antibiotics that came with all sorts of precautions and side effects.
Her GP at the time believed the liver damage to be caused by one of the (many) antibiotics.
I struggle with alcohol dependency because I have a great time with alcohol. However, I am pretty sure it hold me back and makes me unhealthy and fat.
I did go to an AA meeting once and honestly it creeped me the fuck out. Extremely culty, the people pouring their hearts out was moving but the level of fucked their life had become honestly made me feel less like I needed anything that severe.
Alcohol consumption is a fun, positive thing in the most part for me - it is a culture I enjoy. I know it is expensive and there are multiple downsides, but I'd be interested in a more reasonable approach to reducing the amount I drink, something less absolutist.
I wonder if he’d be seen as a Mr Rogers Lite if not for the unfortunate movie theater incident. He did help raise a generation of us in a more 80s/90s style compared to the reserved styling of Rogers.
> Paragon died on April 3, 2021 at his home in Palm Springs, California, at the age of 66. His cause of death was heart disease and chronic alcohol abuse. News of his death was not made public until June.
[+] [-] wjossey|4 years ago|reply
There’s an AA meeting near you that’s probably happening in a few hours. And, if AA isn’t your thing, there are other alternatives as well. I hope you can find a way to make it there, and begin the journey you deserve to live a long, healthy, fulfilling life.
[+] [-] serf|4 years ago|reply
My mother's autopsy and subsequent coroner's testimony stated that she had alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver, indications of alcohol-enabled pancreatitis, and cardiovascular evidence of alcohol abuse..
thing is -- I had lived with her and taken care of her for 20+ years. She hadn't touched alcohol during that time. She stated that before that time that she had been an occasional light social drinker -- and her social community backed her up on that conclusion; there was no real evidence of alcohol abuse in her life.
She had other vices; she smoked until death. She didn't drink.
She died at 65.
So, I ask because I no longer trust coroner's reports wholeheartedly. I think they intend well, and I think they're probably roughly accurate about the state of the body at death -- but I think they probably miss a lot of nuance and probably come up with a lot of shoddy predictions regarding 'lived lifestyle'.
P.S. if you ended up curious as to why she had all that internal injury -- she had a terrible fight with necrotizing fasciitis on one of her legs after an injury during gardening from a rose thorn and subsequent infection earlier in her life -- her ICU stay was extremely long and filled with experimental drugs/antibiotics that came with all sorts of precautions and side effects.
Her GP at the time believed the liver damage to be caused by one of the (many) antibiotics.
[+] [-] antihero|4 years ago|reply
I did go to an AA meeting once and honestly it creeped me the fuck out. Extremely culty, the people pouring their hearts out was moving but the level of fucked their life had become honestly made me feel less like I needed anything that severe.
Alcohol consumption is a fun, positive thing in the most part for me - it is a culture I enjoy. I know it is expensive and there are multiple downsides, but I'd be interested in a more reasonable approach to reducing the amount I drink, something less absolutist.
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