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portent | 4 years ago

re: surprisingly they don't say infinity

I'm not sure it's that surprising, the expectation is only infinity if you think the person making the payout has the capacity to pay an infinite amount. The second you think this amount is finite (which must always be the case in reality), then the expectation becomes finite and probably quite small.

I agree in the more general point, expectation is not always the best tool for extremely rare / extremely significant scenarios.

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Tomminn|4 years ago

The parent is correct, and shouldn't be downvoted IMO. If you set the max payout to world gdp of ~$100 trillion, you get an expected value of ~$50 for the game. So people are actually calculating expected value correctly with their intuition. It's just that in their instinctive calculation they're also making better assumptions about reality than mathematicians do.

plmu|4 years ago

Indeed, it is one of the proposed solutions as listed in the corresponding wikipedia article on the St. Petersburg paradox. There is a table with quite low expected values, mapping the wealth of the bank to the expected value.