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1stranger | 4 years ago

I don't understand this logic. The vast majority of people don't care what version of Windows they're running. They'll just keep running Windows 10 without a care in the world. Just like they keep running Windows 7.

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cpeterso|4 years ago

For an example of just how many people don't care about EOL'd operating systems:

Microsoft's mainstream support for Windows 7 ended in January 2015 (and paid "Extended Security Updates" service ended in January 2020) and yet 21% of Firefox users are still running Windows 7:

https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware#goto-os-and-arch...

quantumsequoia|4 years ago

I think Firefox users are much more likely to be contrarian with their software decisions. I'm not sure how much I'd be willing to extrapolate from from data on Firefox users to the general population

iamcreasy|4 years ago

I left my laptop, that ran Windows 7, running for a couple of hours, and came back to see a notification that says welcome to Windows 10.

joshschreuder|4 years ago

Not sure how that’s relevant to someone who can’t upgrade because of unsupported hardware. You can’t get autoupgraded to an OS your hardware doesn’t support. And most such people would happily continue using Windows 10 without caring (or knowing, most likely)

Narishma|4 years ago

Consider yourself lucky it only took 2 hours to install.

benbristow|4 years ago

I don't think Microsoft would want to make that same mistake again. I would expect Microsoft start pushing Windows 11 automatically through Windows Update for anyone on Windows 10, or at least start pushing heavily through popups/notifications to start the update like they did with Windows 10.

least|4 years ago

That wouldn’t work if the person’s computer doesn’t support Windows 11, though, which is the entire argument the blog post is making. That because windows 11 won’t work people will just throw away their computers and create more electronic waste.

romwell|4 years ago

Soooo, the people who can't install Windows 11 will continue to not care?

I don't understand the logic of your response. It's not like Microsoft will brick machines not eligible for Win 11

wmf|4 years ago

We're talking about computers that (officially) cannot run Windows 11. Obviously they won't be auto-upgraded.

mdoms|4 years ago

So your issue is that MS will force the upgrade onto machines they have explicitly said can't be upgraded? Is that really your concern?

Sebb767|4 years ago

> I don't think Microsoft would want to make that same mistake again.

The mistake of not pushing it? I still remember the uproar when people needed to Google how to say "no" to the upgrade dialog - if it did not simply install without asking, that is. I honestly can't see how they would push Windows 11 any harder.

FridayoLeary|4 years ago

I prefer Windows 7. I like it's UI better. MS' ideal world would apparently not include any OS besides Windows 10 and 11, which is a great shame because i think there's so many great UI features in older Windows.

chasil|4 years ago

The most dislikable thing about Windows 7 is the limitation of clear text SMB2.

It's a good trade for local accounts and a superior ui to what followed.

sp332|4 years ago

Win10 is fine for most people, and each benefit of Win11 can seem a little "niche", but lots of people will fit into at least one of those little niches. Gamers in particular, who have gotten perfectly acceptable performance out of e.g. Ryzen 1x00 CPUs, will need to upgrade to get the most out of their fast SSDs or other features like Auto HDR.

swiley|4 years ago

A lot of people are probably happy to not have their computer taken away for an hour every other week.

slver|4 years ago

Security fixes and support.

EvilEy3|4 years ago

Most users don't care about that.

Hamuko|4 years ago

You still get 4 years with 10.

The Intel 8th gneration was introduced in 2017. So people who bought a computer in 2016 can still push it to ~9 years of service life, which is pretty good for an average Windows computer if they manage to do it. I imagine your average Windows consumer will have replaced a computer once already in that span once all the installed crap has stalled the computer to inoperable speeds.

This honestly doesn't really strike me as a major issue. Especially since smartphones have like less than three years of security fixes on average.