[spaniard89277]

Everis is the typical meat grinder, and it is known for that in Spain.

Now, just as I'm writing this I'm sure someome from Everis will chime in to say he gets paid handsomely and works for amazing projects.

But everyone I've known working for Everis wants to die.

And if such project had to land in Spain for political reasons, there are plenty of companies capable on taking such project with way better prospects.

[joe_the_user]

Article: The platform, known as NATO’s Service-Oriented Architecture and Identity Access Management (SOA & IdM) Project, is one of four core projects of NATO's IT modernization efforts.

So this expresses what "modernization" is - fob as much work as possible unto a job-shop/meat-grinder operation and watch things like this happen. I don't even know whether to laugh or be appalled, the Snowden leaks happened due to contracted-out sys admins, after all.

[hereforphone]

I contracted for US government agencies for a long time. At every single job the contractors were doing the "work" (they had the knowledge) and the government employees were acting as managers. I have not met a government employee with an unusually high level of technical skill (though obviously many do exist). As far as I can tell (and I worked over a decade in this environment, in many countries) government employees exist to attend meetings and task contractors.

[leto_ii]

> the Snowden leaks happened due to contracted-out sys admins, after all

But that's a good thing, right? It's good that everybody found out that the government unlawfully collected their data etc.

Snowden was not an attacker asking for money, he was an honest guy with a conscience and a whole lot of courage.

[flatline]

Nearly everyone who does real work like this for the government is a contractor anymore. The government employees manage the contracts.

[zcw100]

Robert Hanssen was a government employee after all. It's incredibly naive to think that your employer makes any difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

[orbifold]

In Germany this kind of task would land in the lap of T-Systems, SAP (who already do logistics / storage management and probably more for the Army) or one of these consultancies Delloite. You can't expect politicians to be competent.

[raxxorrax]

So you mean there are positive sides to it? Might also be true in this case since I believe they would host surveillance data on citizens.

[zeusk]

So it's akin to Capgemini, Infosys, Accenture, Deloitte, PwC, TCS and the like?

[Foobar8568]

I wouldn't put Deloitte or PwC with the other ones. But yeah, you can add Atos techmindra etc for body shops. Accenture pretends to be like a big4 (like most consultancy) but they are much closer to an Atos/Infosys than PwC.

[gary_0]

Don't forget Oracle.

[iagovar]

Yep. They take on some "advanced" projects too, but at the end of the day it's a meat grinder.

[vishnugupta]

I had a good LOL seeing this[1]. Those Land/Air/Maritime icons look very legit.

[1] https://imgur.com/Hcwayqq

[breakingcups]

I have that icon pack, it's from the early 2000's, if not earlier.

[lanbanger]

I worked as an outside consultant with a team at Everis. It was indeed a meat-grinder of a firm. The final week I was there we did a minimum of 15 hours a day, and I think the longest was 19 or something insane.

[calgoo]

Pay is shit, there are a few interesting projects but that’s it. Good for people starting out young, but like all of these companies, full of lies and promotions that don’t mean anything except a title.

[calgoo]

Forgot to mention: they don’t have an HR department anymore as they are too cool for that. They do have something they call “people” that manage contract, hiring etc. but according to them it’s not HR.

[anthk]

Add Indra to the list.

[iagovar]

IMO this is the kind of project for GMV.