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nxc18 | 4 years ago

The Chinese have not been successful in getting people to have more children. Recent news is that they may be covering up for the early stages of population decline. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-report-first-popul...

Beyond that, the consensus is that population will naturally plateau in the near future, no need for killing people you don’t like.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/17/worlds-popu...

This is high school level knowledge. Where does this meme that human population is growing out of control come from? I keep seeing it repeated here and it is puzzling.

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fragbait65|4 years ago

I agree with what you say. I didn't mean to say that the the population growing is the actual problem. I mean to say that lack of resources is the problem. (Too lazy to create a link) https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/planet-earth/state...

We would still consume too much resources even with population decline.

Sure, lets say we fix climate change. I think the only viable way to actually do that is for everybody agree to live as people did a few hundred years ago.

People seems to believe that we can solve climate change with technology. I think that's a pipe dream.

I also think that it's a pipe dream thinking that the world will band together and "solve" the climate crisis together. I think Covid-19 has showed us that humanity does not band together in a crisis, each country and even each individual will use the crisis to make moves to benefit them.

And it doesn't matter what you do as a individual, most resources are consumed by large corporations anyway.

justshowpost|4 years ago

Huh? Communist China was (and still is) aiming to have LESS children. Before 2015 they didn't allow more than 1 (one!) child per family. Currently they are allowing 2 (two) children which is below sustainability threshold of 2.4

fragbait65|4 years ago

Current news suggest that they are upping the threshold to 3 children trying to stimulate population growth due to needing to increase their available work force in the future.

These measures are not as extreme as the last time they stimulated their population growth, which lead to the one child policy. We'll see if they feel that this stimulation is enough or if they will try to increase the incentive even more if they don't feel as if it is enough.

dragonwriter|4 years ago

> Before 2015 they didn't allow more than 1 (one!) child per family.

Yes, they did. The strict one-child policy (which still had some exceptions) lasted for about the first half of the 1980s.