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Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

64 points| makerofspoons | 4 years ago |theguardian.com

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[+] HDMI_Cable|4 years ago|reply
Note, this is mainly in BC. Canada is incredibly large, with many different climates. So while BC is suffering from these heatwaves, places like Montreal are at 20C and low humidity.
[+] cf100clunk|4 years ago|reply
That was then. Some major events continue in B.C., of course, but this particularly bad heat dome phenomena is now being felt all the way from B.C. to Northern Ontario, the Yukon, and the NWT.
[+] Valgrim|4 years ago|reply
Montreal get heatwaves each year too, reaching 37 celcius last year. Not nearly as high as the current heat wave in the west but dangerous too.
[+] toomuchtodo|4 years ago|reply
Where will the world not be too hot to live in the next 50-100 years?
[+] stragio|4 years ago|reply
https://www.howhotwillitget.com, I made an overview of future climate scenarios of each country worldwide with the latest predictions by the World Bank, maybe this is what you are looking for. :)
[+] devetec|4 years ago|reply
Antarctica? Marie Byrd Land will have melted land areas soon, in the next few decades. By 2100 it'll be completely uncovered. And the Antarctic Treaties expire in 2047...
[+] fractallyte|4 years ago|reply
WTF??

All the time - it's about humans! We're not the only species on this planet! We don't exist in a vacuum - there is such a thing as an ecological network!

What's the fallout for everything else? How many mammals, birds, reptiles, insects died in the recent heatwave? How will this shape ecosystems and biomes?

This kind of thinking is part of the problem...

[+] frosted-flakes|4 years ago|reply
Of course it's about humans. It's always about humans. It happens to be advantageous for us to maintain healthy ecosystems and biomes, but without humans, those things have no meaning.

If a dog or a dangerous wild animal attacks an innocent human child, the point-of-view of the dog or wild animal is never considered, even if it acted in self-defense; it is automatically at fault, and destroyed or relocated to prevent further injury. This is the same approach that we as a species treat everything, for good reason. We've come to recognize that we need the rest of nature and now try in some way to preserve it (not enough in my opinion), but don't forget that we do so for selfish reasons.

[+] lm28469|4 years ago|reply
Looks like we don't even care about our own future, we're sadly a long way from what you're suggesting
[+] fractallyte|4 years ago|reply
So, downvoted?

The 'Anthropocene' is not just an era of stupidity or ignorance.

It's disgusting arrogance.

Here is the first definition of hubris I found: "(in Greek tragedy) excessive pride towards or defiance of the gods, leading to nemesis."

[+] refurb|4 years ago|reply
Is that really true? I mean human have no problem living in Arizona during the summer. Or countries in the equator where wet bulb temperature hover around 27C.

I imagine Canada would be more like the mid latitudes of the US if we saw a 2-4C increase in average temp.

[+] lm28469|4 years ago|reply
> I mean human have no problem living in Arizona during the summer.

If all you do is sleep in an air conditioned home, commute in an air conditioned car, and work in an air conditioned office, then sure, we have "no problem".

[+] mikestew|4 years ago|reply
It is interesting that you bring up wet bulb temperature, when TFA answers your question using just that measurement. Since you must have missed it in your initial reading, search TFA for "35C", which the wet bulb temp that has been briefly observed in some parts of the world over the last couple of years.
[+] hourislate|4 years ago|reply
Much less humidity in AZ although it is easy to succumb to the heat if you don't take precautions. In BC you have a completely different environment where a lot of the heat is attributed to/through humidity. It can be 25C but feel like 35C due to the Humidity. AC is not something people have required in these areas. If they are still under a semi lock down, than they may not be able to seek shelter in shopping malls, etc.

I can't imagine what would happen in Toronto if it got this hot, they are still in a nutty lock down type of scenario (16 City wide Infections in a city of 2 million and it remains almost closed) where shopping malls are only allowed 25% capacity. Considering many folks still don't have AC, it could get interesting.

[+] vfclists|4 years ago|reply
Typical Guardian fluffy logic. Long on theoretical solutions, short on practicality, the kind of logic privileged Westerners are so fond of.

The only way to deal with exercise heat is to redesign buildings, living and work environments to cope with the heat.

Climate alarmists always pretend that human beings haven't seen such events and learned to adapt to them. They have, the important thing is learn from the past, not blame everything on CO2 warming.

The only way to cope with a warming climate is to expend lots more energy in the near term handle the changes in the future, and if you are going to avoid CO2, nuclear is the way forward or something better comes up,

The Green Energy plan is mostly bogus, and that is easy to tell from the kind of companies which have jumped on the bandwagon seeing as leopards don't change their spots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE

[+] imtringued|4 years ago|reply
Yes, it's much cheaper to invest into your domestic military and strengthen your borders. Even in the extreme case where the carrying capacity of earth decreases we just adapt the human population toward the carrying capacity of the earth.

Unfortunately we are in a weird dilemma where using the education of women in foreign countries as contraception could lead to a desire to cross our borders which would require additional military expenditures.

We should applaud China for being the world leader in sterilization and build sterilization centers in Africa and India to follow their example. Prevention is better than the cure (bullets and cremation are expensive).

All these climate alarmists are stupid. All the important people (me) will be fine.

In 2090 Germany will be a nice warm country with 22°C instead of 19°C. Just take a look at this website: https://i.imgur.com/lJJsMiT.png. (poes law)