[whatok]

Comparing packages to deliveries is apples to oranges. I don't disagree that these jobs are rough but 120 deliveries with an average of 3-4 packages per delivery paints a similar picture.

[nrmitchi]

> an average of 3-4 packages per delivery

Do you have any source for this? It seems like a really weird assumption to make, especially given that Amazon will already bundle multiple orders into the same package.

[burnished]

I think their point is that you probably can't compare these two numbers very well because they measure different things, and in the case of Amazon if on average they have 3-4 packages per delivery then the two companies would have very similar numbers. Sidenote, I hate "cant compare apples to oranges" because you eminently can. I'd argue it is much easier to compare things that are very similar! Apples and oranges both have sugars and acids, skins, are recognized as fruits, and are frequently interchangeable. Comparing apples to cranes is much more difficult. "comparing apples to oranges" should mean the comparison is relatively easy to make on a variety of axes!

[whatok]

I should clarify that comment with if you made a naïve assumption of 3-4 packages per delivery then it's a similar workload. I don't doubt that Amazon workers are treated worse than UPS workers but comparing packages to deliveries without normalizing somehow is not productive.

The 400 package number from the article is also specifically cited from this company and we have no idea whether that is a nationwide figure while the UPS comment implies that it is.

[lostapathy]

Conversely, any UPS driver is about guaranteed a handful of business stops that have a dozen to several dozen packages at the stop.

[CydeWeys]

How are you defining delivery? Packages going to the same address? I live in a development of ~100 unit apartment buildings. It will literally take the UPS/FedEx truck all day to go less than a thousand feet through the development, and in that time they're delivering hundreds of packages.

Also, Amazon has a large number of different warehouses that products are shipped from, and it's quite common for different items/orders to not ship together either for that reason or because some items' availability would slow down the others.

[newsclues]

I don’t order much from Amazon but frequently I get a book and a USB drive or something else and it’s shipped in two boxes despite my preference for bundling into as few parcels as possible likely because of multiple warehouses

[pimlottc]

> Amazon will already bundle multiple orders into the same package.

That’s not always been my experience. Just last week, I had three separate orders, all made on the same day, arrive in three separate packages.

[avereveard]

also unknown if they are counting deliveries to locker

[jellicle]

Who said there's an average of 3-4 packages per delivery?

[somethingwitty1]

No one. They were using an example to demonstrate why you can't compare these numbers. There is missing data.

[donmcronald]

The article says they were asking for a limit of 150 deliveries. +25% vs a competitor is a lot IMO.