[ajmadesc]

Its not just anti-road. Its non-dense development. The more spread out services the more resources it takes to maintain them.

The fact of the matter is that we've been accumulating "debt" to build suburbs by ignoring the costs of C02 emmisions and letting the gov subsidise construction w/o plans for upkeep

You should watch (Growth Ponzi Scheme)[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0] from not just bikes

[chroem-]

This is precisely why San Francisco is so expensive relative to the rest of the country. SF's infrastructure seems expressly designed to prevent people from commuting from cheaper, outlying areas. This effectively limits the housing supply by forcing everyone to live in the city proper. There is a tradeoff to be made here, which I feel is being ignored.

[ajmadesc]

Sorry for the late response. I think the solution is clearly to make more places like San Francisco. Not to make SF more like everywhere else.