[u678u]

How does that work across the EU though? Eastern Europe has minimum wages of just a few EUR/hr.

[winterismute]

I did not read this proposal, but if it is meant to pass as an EU directive, it will then require the member states to ratify it as an actual law, following the general principles contained in the directive. So for example, if the EU directive that passes says "The amount of the UBI has to be between 50% and 80% the average salary", the countries can set a number that way, which can be revised or not in the future, etc. That's how it usually works, for example PSD2, about payment services, had general ideas that obviously member states implemented differently in the details.

In theory, if a member state implements a directive in a way that is not faithful, it might risk a fine from the EU, but member states generally do not care much about it, I am not even sure if all of the fines that have been issued in the past have been paid...

[mypastself]

The initiative is apparently to introduce “basic incomes”, plural, which is presumably determined based on local economic circumstances. Not sure how that reduces “regional disparities” and achieves “territorial cohesion”, though.

[rorykoehler]

All that will happen is people will pretend to live in rich expensive countries and actually live in cheaper countries. I already see this all the time with benefits.

[lu4p]

This would probably be implement as a Directive (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_(European_Union)), meaning individual EU countries need to devise their own laws on how to reach the goal of an UBI.

The amount of UBI will most likely depend on how much money an individual needs to buy food, pay rent and pay basic utilities, in a given country.

[hef19898]

My guess? By adapting the UBI to local salaries and living costs. Kind of like Amazon is obviously paying more Luxembourg or Munich than Poland.

[zozbot234]

UBI is supposed to be a baseline guarantee, so it would be quite OK to size it for the cheapest, least developed areas in the EU free-movement area. This should be coupled with very low or non-existent taxation of entry-level wages, so this "low" UBI would still be a meaningful subsidy even in the wealthiest areas of the EU.

[isbvhodnvemrwvn]

How would it be meaningful when the rent you need to pay in Munich is several times what you need to live in eastern Poland?

[axiosgunnar]

The answer is it doesn't :-)

[toomuchtodo]

A lazy answer if so, and a disappointing take on organizing society if that’s considered acceptable.

[slg]

No reason why the UBI needs to be a flat universal rate rather than adjusted based off local economic factors.

[ericmay]

How would that work in practice? Wouldn't people just move to the higher UBI areas?