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grokys | 4 years ago

> If you actually wanted to do something about the US murder rate, it's very obvious where to begin fixing things. Nobody wants to talk about it, it's not a national discussion at all, it just keeps getting swept under the rug (while the dead bodies pile up, year after year).

Gun control, you mean?

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busymom0|4 years ago

Stop letting them use gun control to ignore the underlying issues in the community.

ME: Chicago has strict gun control but high gun violence.

THEM: They get guns from states with loose gun control.

ME: But those states don't have the same gun violence

THEM: Places in Chicago are poor & neglected so there's more violence.

ME: BINGO, it's a socioeconomic issue not a gun issue!

This site tracks Chicago specifically:

https://heyjackass.com

2020: 456 Homicides, 1,902 Wounded

2021 so far 6 months in: 378 Homicides, 1727 wounded, 2082 shot

Until the gang problem gets solved, nothing will change. And politicians are too busy disarming the law abiding citizens and cutting police budgets instead of focusing on the illegal gang problem.

igetspam|4 years ago

It's nice that you have it all figured out. Now solve for school shootings? I'll preload the specifics for you:

* Not gang related

* Never (almost never?) happened at an "inter city" school

* Not in places with strict gun control laws

Bonus points of you can do it while blaming mental health AND justify our decreased spending on mental health.

The mic is yours.

onion2k|4 years ago

ME: BINGO, it's a socioeconomic issue not a gun issue!

It could be both.

weavie|4 years ago

Maybe it's both.

adventured|4 years ago

Well certainly that's one required aspect of many.

I've yet to see a single serious national proposal for hoovering up the vast number of illegal guns from the inner cities however. The 117,000 gang members in Chicago do not care about gun permits or background checks.

The gun control measures being proposed - exclusively by the Democrats - won't do anything to stem the near-genocide rate of murder in US inner cities.

The actual big target is: opportunity, jobs, wealth. If you don't fix that in the US inner cities, you won't stem the murder, gang participation and rate of violence. There also isn't much being done about that equation in the US inner cities.

igetspam|4 years ago

Can you print to any proposals by anyone that you think will work? Tossing out the "by Democrats" seems like political mud slinging.