[bazooka_penguin]

There's a certain irony that the urbanists who advocate high density big city living are also the kind of people who escape at the first sign of trouble or rising cost, which they themselves contributed to, and run off to suburbs, small towns, and country sides and drive up property costs and price the much poorer locals out. Living in a suburb in NJ I can't help but notice increased traffic in the direction of NYC, even compared to prelockdown, coinciding with the rapid rise in housing costs

[PaulDavisThe1st]

This is a generalized assertion about a large number of people, made without any evidence. Even if it is true for some subset of "urbanists" (which could be true, but it isn't incredibly obvious that it is), it isn't likely to be true for the entire set of people who advocate for high density big city living.

[Retric]

I doubt most people making 38k would be that annoyed if their house gained 700+k in value and property taxes forced them to move somewhere else. The elderly can even do a reverse mortgage and stay in their homes while receiving extra income.