[wavepruner]

I'm curious, do you still not believe that vaccine injury is real? The FDA and CDC have now repeatedly acknowledged it's existence with the COVID-19 vaccines.

If you do believe that it's real with respect to the COVID-19 vaccines, what is your reasoning for advocating for "restraining" people who are concerned about this issue?

[javajosh]

Driving is dangerous but we still teach teenagers to drive. We weigh the risks and the benefits and, despite the risks, do it anyway.

It is a degenerate form of the straw-man fallacy to bring up only the risks. Additionally, this kerfuffle is predicated on the totally false assertion that the state is taking parents out of the decision-making loop.

There is NO substance here. NOTHING.

There. You made me talk about the stupid thing. I hope you're happy.

[wavepruner]

There is a daily, constant conversation about the benefits of vaccines. I don't need to bring that up. It is implied.

There are people whose lives have been destroyed by vaccines. That isn't nothing. It seems they are just too much of a minority for you to care. Or you don't believe they exist. And that's why I asked you that question, because we can't have a conversation without understanding where each of us is coming from.

If you don't want to talk then don't talk. But don't attack and insult me. I'm not making you do anything.