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jsbdk | 4 years ago

I'm not defending his actions as I have no horse in this race, but he seems to have the support of his country - why should the EU be above that?

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jonathanstrange|4 years ago

Because any country that joins the EU agrees with the European Union Treaties in a legally binding way, and among other things these guarantee certain minimal democratic standards and human rights in the European Convention on Human Rights. The government of a country cannot just pick those parts of signed and ratified treaties they happen to like at one time or another and reap the benefits of membership without also fulfilling corresponding requirements and duties.

They would have to leave the EU first, which they are free to do at any time. Of course, then they would also not get any membership benefits.

tobltobs|4 years ago

The EU shouldn't be above that. But when Hungary doesn't like the rules of the EU it should leave. Of course it never will, as it is depending on the 3.000.000.000 Euro yearly support.

upgrejd|4 years ago

Why would they leave when they can have the cake and eat it?

ipatec|4 years ago

Those 3b are such a simplistic narrative. How much money do Western companies make in Hungary due to EU? The reality is that EU is mostly a neo-colonial project where the East Europe is depleted of resources (especially human capital) and treated as nothing more than a marketplace for W European products.

meibo|4 years ago

Because they are an EU member, which comes with certain obligations and values.

If you don't want that part of the deal, you shouldn't get the money either.

gznyirfa|4 years ago

Actually, the laws of elections have been "fixed" by Orban as a very first step - and media completely taken over to stream 100% propaganda 24/7 as a second step - so the "support" behind Orban is just like behind any other modern dictatorship - that uses mass media manipulation and election system upgrades instead of tortures and prisons.

pestaa|4 years ago

I'm not sure the premise is certain - in the last election his party received slightly less than half of the votes, however voting laws were altered in their own favor (managed to get super majority with <50% votes).

My feeling is that even most of his voters don't like him, they just hate change more.

ceilingcorner|4 years ago

This doesn’t matter if the elected winner is on the wrong team. See: the history of Egypt in the last 30 years.