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ctrl-j | 4 years ago

Is your comment just anti-virtue signaling then?

Sometimes people just want to share their opinions, and they actually feel those feelings. Sometimes those feelings are about ethical issues.

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acituan|4 years ago

Feelings alone do not make a rational standpoint. This ex-pressing (pressing outwards) of our feelings was the problem of romanticism, and it has to be balanced with what the reality tells back at us.

In other words, people don't seem to be saying they shouldn't have shared their feelings, but when they did they should have been ready to receive the criticism especially on logical results of their reasoning.

Not using products you've already purchased and enjoyed is most likely not an act of virtue, it probably changes nothing materially in the world to make it a better place. However, it is a display of purity in protest, which might inspire others to take action to the extent they are impressed by it, but it mostly feels egosyntonic for the person who does this demonstration.

Hence the criticism of virtue signaling; it is not the virtue bit, it is the signaling bit, divorced from the essence of being virtuous.

mcguire|4 years ago

From a rational standpoint, buying and playing games is a waste of time and money.

rapind|4 years ago

I feel like any debate over the term “virtual signaling“ is missing the meta game (along with people who virtue signal or accuse others of virtue signalling).

Like there’s an evil genius(es) with ulterior motives behind it all.

Could just be my cynicism though.

aaronbrethorst|4 years ago

Claiming 'virtue signaling' always feels like a presumption of bad faith by the claimant.

mcguire|4 years ago

That's because it is. The question to ask, of any argument, is "so what?": what do you want to do about it. The "so what" for an accusation of "virtue signalling" is to dismiss the original statement without any further consideration.

sangnoir|4 years ago

In recursive irony, those who use the phrase "virtue signaling" are also virtue signaling, and the it is, in itself a shibboleth for people of a certain political persuasion.