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Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

53 points| Kaibeezy | 4 years ago |leisurepurpose.wordpress.com | reply

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[+] kazinator|4 years ago|reply
I saw a documentary on Japanese TV on this topic. Or, actually, it might have been this reality TV show:

https://www.asahi.co.jp/konnatokoroni/

whose concept is that Japanese celebrities travel to various places in the world, often remote, to pay a surprise visit to some Japanese person living there.

Anyway, in this particular episode, a certain gentleman was visited who lives in some high altitude mountainous location in Vietnam, I think.

He chose to live there largely due to the ideal climate.

The idea is that one important characteristic of a "good" climate is that there are no swings in temperature: no seasons. OK, that constrains us to the tropics. (Or else, as a strawman argument, perhaps to the Arctic or Antarctica.) But it's hot and humid in the tropics, with rain. The solution: a high altitude location in the mountains at a tropical latitude: low lat, high alt. A high altitude location in the tropics still has no seasons, but is cooler and with less rain.

The gentleman said that he could go outside year round wearing the same light clothing. He also pointed out that the advantage is not just comfort; he was able able to grow vegetables all year round, without regard for seasons.

[+] finiteseries|4 years ago|reply
The vast majority of tropical Mexico & Central America’s cities seem to be settled in this manner as well, it’s lovely.

I wonder if it’s a lack of rivers, islands, and ports that led to this vs Southeast Asia’s cities mostly being at sea level. Although Colombia has rivers & ports, and still is mostly settled in the mountains. Odd.

[+] ardit33|4 years ago|reply
Most of European Coastal Mediterranean, (Spain, Italy, France, Greece, Albania, southern part of Croatia), including Portugal, San Diego, and anything close to the ocean in California (as long as it is not in the fog belt like San Francisco),

South Africa, and perhaps some parts of Australia and Latin America.

Basically, anywhere where it is sunny 'Mild Mediterranean' weather, that it is not too hot (North Africa is too hot for my taste).

Top Cities in Europe: Barcelona, Valencia, in Spain, Livornia, Rimini, Pisa, in Italy (Rome can get too hot), Marsseille, Nice in France, Durres, Vlora in Albania, (actually most of Albania has great weather), Dubrovnik in Croatia, Corfu, Patras, Selaniki in Greece), Lisbon and Porto in Portugal, etc...

This is the sunshine map of Europe. Light Orange areas are probably the best areas weather wise. If it is the bright Orange, then Coastal areas are still great, but inland might get too hot. Eg. Madrid, and Rome get too hot in the summer, but cities like Barcelona, or Niece in France are more moderate as they are coastal:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Europe_s...

[+] balfirevic|4 years ago|reply
> southern part of Croatia

That's where I live. Summers get much too hot to be called mild, but it's the winters that are annoying as hell. Everyone pretends that the cold doesn't exist, so insulation is terrible and so is heating unless you want to pay through the nose for electricity every month.

Seriously, winters were much better when I lived in the capital, which is continental and colder but has actual amenities to counter that.

I did have an opportunity to spend a month in Los Angeles on two occasions (in winter and fall) and the weather was fantastic.

[+] throw0101a|4 years ago|reply
> Basically, anywhere where it is sunny 'Mild Mediterranean' weather, that it is not too hot (North Africa is too hot for my taste).

I wouldn't object to living in that climate type (Csa, Csb), but I'd be worried about rainfall:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_climate

Personally I'd lean more towards Oceanic:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanic_climate

Still mild, with some seasonality. I do understand why some people wouldn't want all the cloudiness.

[+] AtomicOrbital|4 years ago|reply
Folks need to appreciate lush vibrant green vegetation where frequent rain is encouraged ... perhaps motivated by lifelong hiking every few days ... so for me Mediterranean climate is way too dry and barren
[+] andrepd|4 years ago|reply
+1 for that sweet Csa climate :)
[+] mannykannot|4 years ago|reply
I got a chuckle out of seeing the U.K. Overseas Territories ranked 3rd. in the countries list, as it is comprised of fourteen territories spread from the Isle of Man to the British Antarctic Territory via the Caribbean and Mediterranean seas and the Indian ocean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories

[+] gumby|4 years ago|reply
Well, when you consider the average
[+] shoto_io|4 years ago|reply
WeatherSpark is my favorite platform for this question. Lots of data and look-a-like places. Highly recommended.

https://www.weatherspark.com/

[+] whalesalad|4 years ago|reply
Remarkable how different the experience is on that website when you are not using an ad blocker.
[+] seansmccullough|4 years ago|reply
WeatherSpark is great, probably my favorite weather website.
[+] samhh|4 years ago|reply
Something this doesn't tell you is that summers in London for example are awful because our homes have historically been designed to trap heat.
[+] yesenadam|4 years ago|reply
Weather is complicated. e.g. Taree (NSW, Australia) gets a 10 in the list of 129 cities with nearly perfect weather. But in summer it's often very hot and humid. Way too hot. (Source: I did 11 years of school there!) But just 30 minutes drive down the road is Forster-Tuncurry, between ocean and lake, with a sea breeze, never too hot or humid, which I'd say does have perfect weather. They're both fairly small country towns, though, not cities.

I'm in Sydney now. I have friends in many countries, who live with typhoons, earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, violence...and not having any of that here makes me feel fortunate and it almost justifies the crazy high rent.

[+] lifty|4 years ago|reply
I’m surprised that Tenerife didn’t come up. It’s a Spanish island of the coast of Africa which gets great weather and a narrow temperature band all year round. Half of the island is quite green and lush because it gets a decent amount of rain, while the other half is more dry. I suspect Madeira is similar but even more green.
[+] ghaff|4 years ago|reply
So much of it is subjective. But assuming you throw out having seasons--especially snowy seasons--and desire for year-round humid or dry heat--the answer probably comes down to some variation of a Mediterranean climate with assorted perturbations. Though that doesn't really match up with the results.
[+] throw0101a|4 years ago|reply
> Therefore, I decided that the best weather was the weather that would most encourage a person to go outdoors and stay outdoors. For that purpose, key weather elements would be sunshine, warmth, and dryness — calling to mind the Dreary Weather Index offered by Brian Brettschneider:

I think this is a bad measure of encouragement to go outdoors, as it gives (e.g.) large swaths of New Mexico and Arizona a good (i.e., low) score: there's no way I'm going outside when it's >40C.

Certainly not all of places in Arizona get so hot that airplanes can't fly of course:

* https://www.wired.com/story/phoenix-flights-canceled-heat/

So hopefully the min and max temperature was taken into account in this article's calculations, as it does not seem to be in the "Dreary Weather Index". I am reminded of the episode of the cartoon King of the Hill where they visit Phoenix:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE

[+] klyrs|4 years ago|reply
Wow, that dreariness index plot is a total mess. I'm not even colorblind, and I had way too much trouble distinguishing the best from worst...
[+] giarc|4 years ago|reply
Is there some reason they go orange to blue then back to red?
[+] s5300|4 years ago|reply
San Diego and some of Tijuana are just about unbeatable IMO. Any other weather that isn't perfectly sunny is only a short drive away if you so feel the need... the only thing I've ever missed from the MidWest is a few good thunderstorms a year, but even those don't seem to happen as much as it at least seemed to when I was much younger.
[+] panzagl|4 years ago|reply
San Diego is fine if you can live near the water, but go inland where people can afford to live and it's basically desert.
[+] 11thEarlOfMar|4 years ago|reply
It's really important to keep in mind that climate can change dramatically in only short distances. From last week, at the same time it was 100F in Sacramento, CA, it was 60F in Inverness, CA. Same latitude, same elevation. The two are about 100 miles apart, a short distance when searching the globe.

I cite Inverness, CA because it has the best weather for my tastes: 20F annual temperature range with average high just under 70F. Always breezy out of the West, with clean ocean air coming off the Pacific. 257 days of sun, 42 inches of rain, less than 1% 'muggy' humidity.

Most places within 10 miles of the Northern California Pacific coast have these attributes.

https://weatherspark.com/y/609/Average-Weather-in-Inverness-...

[+] hattmall|4 years ago|reply
Average high under 70 is cold for most people. That's too cold for most water related outdoor activity which is what summer is based around for many people.
[+] kbenson|4 years ago|reply
Is it me, or have quite a large percentage of links bit rotted for an article a bit over a year old? I haven't clocked on a bunch, just 4-5, but the only one that actually worked was to Wikipedia.
[+] oblib|4 years ago|reply
I did something similar back in the late `80s when I decided to leave Los Angeles after living there for about 15 years, but weather was not the only criteria I looked into.

I also looked into cost of housing, wages, employment, acres of public land, annual rainfall, proximity to nuke plants, air and water quality, crime rates, taxes, schools.

It took me a long time to gather the data I wanted to review. Back then I bought an "US Alamanac" to help with my research and it was a great resource.

[+] happytoexplain|4 years ago|reply
This is incredibly dense, and I hope to read it. My first impression is that people like much warmer temperatures than I do (Orlando Florida!?).
[+] onion2k|4 years ago|reply
I don't think I could define what "the best weather" means. I like a sunny day as much as anyone, but I like snow too, and a huge thunderstorm, and even a bit of rain, and mist, and everything else. I'd miss a lot of that if I lived somewhere that had the "best" weather.
[+] fumar|4 years ago|reply
I thought the same for 30 years. Then I moved to Southern California. I don't miss the any of those things. My allergies are gone. My exercise routine is consistent and my outdoor hobbies increased. Beach, mountains, flatland, desert, gardens, etc are all within 1 or 2 hours from me.
[+] sjs7007|4 years ago|reply
Basically you want seasons instead of monotony.
[+] thefourthchime|4 years ago|reply
Little surprised Redwood, CA isn't there. Their slogan is "Climate best by government test"
[+] gpsx|4 years ago|reply
Redwood City and other mid Bay Area mid-peninsula cities have very nice weather. They have the same effect that makes San Diego so nice, the interface between warm sun and cool ocean. If the criteria was slightly different, biased cooler, Redwood city might be on the list.
[+] christkv|4 years ago|reply
I would wager on the Canary Islands never to hot or cold and lots of good weather