> Please don't discuss your name suggestions or votes in community channels. To avoid exhausting bikeshedding and ensure a fair result, we want to make this a blind vote. While we obviously can't stop you from discussing it outside of PrivacyTools's rooms, we trust that you'll do your part in making all of this a smooth process!
Doesn't sound like a great plan really. If I were you I'd work harder with the domain owner to get control. It sounds like he's just hard to reach, not obstructive as such.
A name change is a huge thing and you're diluting your userbase. I also think most of your userbase will consider such name changes a bad thing as rebranding is a major marketing tool of big business which a lot of us would be sceptical of.
I think you do good work but your name is already perfect.
> Doesn't sound like a great plan really. If I were you I'd work harder with the domain owner to get control. It sounds like he's just hard to reach, not obstructive as such.
For context, we did bring this up with Burung Hantu, when he was around about 6 months ago. We offered to buy the domain.
I have adopted many of the tools found on that site, and the novelty of it has worn off. It's rare now that new tools come along in the privacy space. It's a bit of a golden age / renaissance of privacy tools and there are more than enough tools now to be very private online. Some would argue the opposite, but if you put the work in, you can avoid the gaze of Big Brother.
We haven't had proper contact with him for a while. And even when he was "available", it was so intermittent that he may as well have been absent. (I've been in the team for a year and they have logged on to our Matrix chat about three times). This affected fundamental tasks like updating the site and having our servers for our services work.
Just thought I'd point out that I have a standing PR with privacytools from late 2019 and it never went anywhere, even though I was careful to ensure everything was done correctly.
Your PR claims to resolve issue 1618, but an open question in that issue is not addressed anywhere that I can see:
"tell more about VyOS and how it is a privacy tool and secure and how we won't regret listing it [...] remember citations so your research can be confirmed"
Is it possible that the privacytools folks are not willfully excluding your suggestion, but merely waiting until they understand it? I know what VyOS is, but I don't imagine most people do.
I'm sorry you think that we are just one of 'those spam VPN review sites'. As a team member, I can assure you that we hate them just as much as you. [1]
VPNs used to play a large role in the site (they no longer do), but we've never accepted any affiliate requests. (We do however operate a sponsorship programe which we are working on making a criteria for). [2,3] We have a strict criteria for the few VPNs we do list on our site. [4] We strive to educate users on the purpose of VPNs [5], and try not to recommend when there are other options.
No, I find them to be a lot more ambitious than that. Worth browsing around the site, and you'll see it's not spammy at all.
If you run a serious web project, ownership of domain names is critical asset management, especially if you care for privacy. If the current domain was to get hijacked by someone's commercial ambitions, the site would probably be reworked towards the kind of BS VPN blabbering you described.
I don't agree with all of PrivacyTools' angles and priorities, making a lot of their advice pretty impractical for most people. But the purist approach is also interesting to follow, even if one doesn't jump on the bandwagon.
[+] [-] teddyh|4 years ago|reply
— https://aragon.cloud/apps/forms/cMPxG9KyopapBbcw
[+] [-] GekkePrutser|4 years ago|reply
A name change is a huge thing and you're diluting your userbase. I also think most of your userbase will consider such name changes a bad thing as rebranding is a major marketing tool of big business which a lot of us would be sceptical of.
I think you do good work but your name is already perfect.
[+] [-] dngray|4 years ago|reply
For context, we did bring this up with Burung Hantu, when he was around about 6 months ago. We offered to buy the domain.
The exact details were discussed more here:
https://old.reddit.com/comments/osvuf9/comment/h6rnkyt/
https://old.reddit.com/comments/osvuf9/comment/h6rrbf4/
[+] [-] kosasbest|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] freddyym|4 years ago|reply
See here: https://privacytools.io/classic/
[+] [-] kashura|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] freddyym|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] robcohen|4 years ago|reply
https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/pull/1619
After that experience I determined that privacytools is a club for cool kids.
[+] [-] foresto|4 years ago|reply
"tell more about VyOS and how it is a privacy tool and secure and how we won't regret listing it [...] remember citations so your research can be confirmed"
Is it possible that the privacytools folks are not willfully excluding your suggestion, but merely waiting until they understand it? I know what VyOS is, but I don't imagine most people do.
[+] [-] betwixthewires|4 years ago|reply
The founder is Jonah Aragon right? He used to run an OpenNIC TLD if I'm correct and abandoned that for some reason a long time ago.
[+] [-] dngray|4 years ago|reply
No, he's the system administrator, the founder was Burung Hantu. https://privacytools.io/about/
[+] [-] Finger_Fudge|4 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] counternotions|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] freddyym|4 years ago|reply
VPNs used to play a large role in the site (they no longer do), but we've never accepted any affiliate requests. (We do however operate a sponsorship programe which we are working on making a criteria for). [2,3] We have a strict criteria for the few VPNs we do list on our site. [4] We strive to educate users on the purpose of VPNs [5], and try not to recommend when there are other options.
[1] https://blog.privacytools.io/the-trouble-with-vpn-and-privac... [2]https://www.privacytools.io/sponsors/ [3]https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/issues/2134 [4] https://privacytools.io/providers/vpn/#criteria [5] https://blog.privacytools.io/understanding-vpns/
[+] [-] apecat|4 years ago|reply
If you run a serious web project, ownership of domain names is critical asset management, especially if you care for privacy. If the current domain was to get hijacked by someone's commercial ambitions, the site would probably be reworked towards the kind of BS VPN blabbering you described.
I don't agree with all of PrivacyTools' angles and priorities, making a lot of their advice pretty impractical for most people. But the purist approach is also interesting to follow, even if one doesn't jump on the bandwagon.
[+] [-] aborsy|4 years ago|reply
Their privacy recommendations are good. It’s my go-to place, and I have been a frequent user.
[+] [-] fragileone|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] NeckBeardPrince|4 years ago|reply