[chillydawg]

those were the days! I was really productive in that mode, although the quality of output was 1/10 at best. Buggy, insecure, etc. Don't even talk about maintainability! But, but! You got it done real fast and most of the time for some random website that doesnt handle money, who cares?

[orangepanda]

Beautiful code and abstractions dont mean nothing if you dont ship anything

[Tade0]

I got back to doing this for a brief moment a few years ago.

The effect was just brutally hideous, but it worked.

Makes one wonder if all this sophisticated tooling we're using currently is actually worth it.

[idoubtit]

> Buggy, insecure, etc. Don't even talk about maintainability!

> who cares?

Some people want their whole website to work for all visitors, so they care about bugs. Some people want their website to stay online and not to be misused by spammers and co, even for non-commercial sites, so they care about security. Some people want their website to evolve for years, so they care about maintainability.

Shipping junk code is delivering... Then a few years later, the owner wants to fix the bugs and add features, and they learn that no one wants to do it unless it's a full rewrite of the legacy code. They have to pay twice for the same features.

[marcos100]

Yes, but now they have earned four times the money and better understanding of the product for releasing a year earlier than the bug-free version. Twice the price could be cheaper than releasing a year later.

I may be exaggerating but, as always, engineering is all about trade-offs.

[mewpmewp2]

If there's few years of diff usually no matter the effort put in everyone will want to rewrite this, not only just because, but because tech ages so fast and everyone wants to work with just the latest.