[superflit]

If I move to Luxemburg will they pay more?

This is the Nth article trying to convey the new narrative.

The narrative that "we need to go back".

No!

We don't need. The market is hot and we can choose.

Take the simple math. 1 hour commuting one way.

2 hours by day, 10 hours by week, 40 hours by month.

Working at home gives you back at least 40h.

Working at home GIVES you BACK AT least 1 Week!

And I am not even talking about better food, spresso machine and gym!

Now we are fighting climate change staying at home and reducing our carbon print not commuting.

Think of the children!

[00deadbeef]

I’m already reaping the rewards of WFH. I used to have the energy to go to gym maybe twice a week after work, then eat some rubbish food because I didn’t have the energy to spend another hour in the kitchen.

Now I can be at my gym when it opens at 06:30, have a good workout, shower, walk home, cook breakfast, and still have 30 mins before I need to start working.

I can even fit in short cardio sessions in the evening and have returned home and made a nutritious meal by the time I’d normally just be getting home from work.

I go to the gym seven times a week now with no net reduction in my free time.

I eat a better diet. I save money. I’m happier and more relaxed. My home office is a much more productive space than the noisy open plan office we have.

I never start the working day in a bad mood whereas a bad commute (delays, bad weather, unpleasant people, etc) used to put me in a lousy mood for the rest of the day.

[Johnny555]

Not all commutes are equal (both in environmental footprint and desirability). One of my favorite commutes was about an hour by train -- I lived 5 minutes from the station and my job was a short walk from the station. It was a reverse commute, so I always got a seat.

I got a lot of reading done and I didn't consider it to be "wasted time".

Another favorite long commute was 45 minutes by bike, almost all on a separated bike trail.

Of course, my current 30 second bedroom to livingroom commute is probably my favorite commute of all time, but my point is not all commutes are horrible. And even my current work-from-home commute has its drawbacks, like no clear separation between office and home life.

[turbinerneiter]

So why was the employee not OK with taking a pay cut for all those benefits? And if he is gonna be remote anyway, then why not outsource his job to a country with lower cost of living and therefore lower cost of labor?

And doesn't mean that we have to pay everyone more who _has_ to come to work? I.e. because they need to go the factory floor? Or they need to go the power plant?

Don't just look at half the equation.

[lotsofpulp]

> And doesn't mean that we have to pay everyone more who _has_ to come to work? I.e. because they need to go the factory floor? Or they need to go the power plant?

You only have to pay someone more if you cannot find someone to do the job for lower pay.

[lotsofpulp]

> We don't need. The market is hot and we can choose.

Then this will not be a problem for Alphabet employees that are unhappy with a decrease in pay.

[oneplane]

I suppose it won't be a problem of similar size, but still a problem. Google does a thing and now you suddenly have to also do a thing as a reaction.

If Google didn't do the thing, then the employees also didn't have to to a thing and that would have been easier.

[joshuamorton]

> if I move to Luxemburg will they pay more?

Yes, or at least if you move to higher cost markets (Zurich, sf, etc.) You'll be paid more than you might have been otherwise. It just happens than Google already has established offices in like all of the most expensive cities.

[swader999]

It's 85 weeks over a 30 year career.