And it's a pretty weak showing. The stiff animation and bad lip sync immediately gives it away to me. And the fact that the CGI Huang is shown ~15 times smaller than the real one is very damning.
> It's not clear exactly which part of the keynote speech features CGI Huang (which is what makes the replica so impressive), but if you jump to this part of the presentation you can see Huang magically disappear and his kitchen explode into multiple different 3D models.
I was going to comment something like "yeah, yeah, everyone's an expert, it's easy to say you can spot the CGI once you've been told it's there", but then I looked at the video and... wow, that really is a pretty weak showing!
That looks like when a typical tv show does a "video game" episode and one of the regular cast members gets a character meant to look like them, but in video game form. It does not look like it was meant to seem human.
After watching the whole making of I also was pretty disappointed of the final result. Each individual part in the making of was pretty solid so I had high expectations.
I guess it was the tight deadline (only a few weeks I think?) that didn't leave them any time to polish the final result.
>> It's not clear exactly which part of the keynote speech features CGI Huang (which is what makes the replica so impressive),
I think what Vice ment to say was "this video was SO boring, we were multitasting on our phone and didn't see anything out the ordinary from the corner of our eyes."
Thanks for the direct link; I thought it was pretty horrible. At this level, if you're going to take the time to show how awesome your stuff is, maybe partner with a talented team to do it on the level of Disney/Pixar.
For journalists, something like that is quite an accusation, and it really doesn’t help anyone to thoughtlessly make it.
Maybe they are stupid, or just have different ideas of what’s newsworthy, or it was a slow news day…whatever. But all of those come down to a difference of opinion, not a statement of fact made without evidence.
“Assume good faith” is in the guidelines here. And while it isn’t explicitly extended to the articles themselves, the reason for including it do extend to other interactions. Mindless cynicism leads to the sort of corrosive distrust that’s eating away at civil societies everywhere.
I was judging the couple of seconds before the transition, and thought it wasn't that bad.
Then I focused on the transition, and the jacket lost all the texture. Later I let the transition play through, and saw that lonely character standing there, zoomed away, awkward hand and arm movement, and I cringed.
Why put any amount of effort into it if this is the result? Almost pathetic.
Thanks! I did not immediately realize this since I just jumped to the video. Given the state of the art in various subfields in CGI it would have made it moderately plausible the live CEO would have been rendered as well (in which case it would have been mindbogglingly good).
It's quite surprising to me that they actually published the press release. With this quality, it would've probably been better to say nothing and let this one slip quietly.
On the other hand, there's no such thing as bad publicity, I guess ...
The reason he ended up looking like shit is because it was a combination of dog-fooding their own software (admirable) as well as rushing the production on a tight deadline.
Imagine crunching long hours to make a digital replica of your boss for the hell of it. They even scanned his leather jacket, which is admittedly worthy of a chuckle considering the thing's taken on a life of its own. In the distant future, I imagine the jacket will be embodied with AI and entrusted with carrying the company forward in Jensen's image.
Silicon Valley may have ended years ago, but stuff like this writes itself.
They focus on the wrong thing, in my opinion. What I took away from NVIDIA's announcement was:
NVIDIA is dog-fooding their Metaverse renderer and all the CGI sequences in the keynote were created using it. As someone considering to build a plugin for it, that's great news. If they use it themselves, you can be reasonably optimistic that it won't have any horrible usability bugs. Plus it now integrates with Blender.
So if I had to come up with a headline, it'd be:
"NVIDIA's Photorealistic Keynote Rendering Software now available for Free to Blender Users"
Even the tiny computer-generated keynote part points to something that can nudge humanity forward.
Namely, the possibility of automating bullshit. Endless mission statements, employee narrated stories, and hand gesturing is very valuable. I would pay $10,000 out of my pocket for the opportunity to never do those product hype videos again.
> you can be reasonably optimistic that it won't have any horrible usability bugs
Or alternatively, since they are the ones also building it, they intimately know it's (undocumented) pitfalls and how to work around them and/or they plow through bad DX with a horde of engineers that only a big corporation like them can afford. Dog-fooding doesn't automatically improve a product.
Agreed. I was watching the real Jensen thinking, hmmm seems a bit plastic and lifeless, but the rendering looks very realistic. Turns out that's just Jensen.
They apparently created all slides of the keynote with omniverse in a couple of weeks, and used a lot of technologies for no other reason than just to try them out.
actually that timestamp is deceptive since the frame it opens at is the real jensen. this timestamp shows the cgi jensen and its very obvious due to the distance and animation that it is indeed cgi.
https://youtu.be/eAn_oiZwUXA?t=3761
I simply do not understand why they are pouring so many resources at Omniverse. They’re reinventing the wheels quite a bit. Leads me to believe this is Jensen’s pet project that no one within the company will go against.
From the Vice article: "After this article was published, Nvidia updated its blog post, clarifying that “only 14 seconds of the hour and 48 minute presentation” were animated."
Even Gemini Man was not very convincing with all the money and the time and effort they could spend. I don’t believe any other attempt could produce a better result any time soon.
In Strugatski brothers novel "Monday Begins on Saturday" (first published in 1964) employees substituted their dumb clones for themselves to perform various mind numbing low-intelligence work related activities which their employment at a typical research institution of USSR was full of. And the large West corporations do have a lot of that old socialism feel to them :)
[+] [-] nightcracker|4 years ago|reply
And it's a pretty weak showing. The stiff animation and bad lip sync immediately gives it away to me. And the fact that the CGI Huang is shown ~15 times smaller than the real one is very damning.
> It's not clear exactly which part of the keynote speech features CGI Huang (which is what makes the replica so impressive), but if you jump to this part of the presentation you can see Huang magically disappear and his kitchen explode into multiple different 3D models.
So how much was Vice paid for this article?
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[+] [-] elaus|4 years ago|reply
I guess it was the tight deadline (only a few weeks I think?) that didn't leave them any time to polish the final result.
[+] [-] geoduck14|4 years ago|reply
I think what Vice ment to say was "this video was SO boring, we were multitasting on our phone and didn't see anything out the ordinary from the corner of our eyes."
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[+] [-] IfOnlyYouKnew|4 years ago|reply
For journalists, something like that is quite an accusation, and it really doesn’t help anyone to thoughtlessly make it.
Maybe they are stupid, or just have different ideas of what’s newsworthy, or it was a slow news day…whatever. But all of those come down to a difference of opinion, not a statement of fact made without evidence.
“Assume good faith” is in the guidelines here. And while it isn’t explicitly extended to the articles themselves, the reason for including it do extend to other interactions. Mindless cynicism leads to the sort of corrosive distrust that’s eating away at civil societies everywhere.
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[+] [-] qwertox|4 years ago|reply
Then I focused on the transition, and the jacket lost all the texture. Later I let the transition play through, and saw that lonely character standing there, zoomed away, awkward hand and arm movement, and I cringed.
Why put any amount of effort into it if this is the result? Almost pathetic.
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[+] [-] Sebb767|4 years ago|reply
On the other hand, there's no such thing as bad publicity, I guess ...
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[+] [-] rl3|4 years ago|reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qhqZ9ECm70#t=23m03s
The reason he ended up looking like shit is because it was a combination of dog-fooding their own software (admirable) as well as rushing the production on a tight deadline.
Imagine crunching long hours to make a digital replica of your boss for the hell of it. They even scanned his leather jacket, which is admittedly worthy of a chuckle considering the thing's taken on a life of its own. In the distant future, I imagine the jacket will be embodied with AI and entrusted with carrying the company forward in Jensen's image.
Silicon Valley may have ended years ago, but stuff like this writes itself.
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[+] [-] fxtentacle|4 years ago|reply
NVIDIA is dog-fooding their Metaverse renderer and all the CGI sequences in the keynote were created using it. As someone considering to build a plugin for it, that's great news. If they use it themselves, you can be reasonably optimistic that it won't have any horrible usability bugs. Plus it now integrates with Blender.
So if I had to come up with a headline, it'd be:
"NVIDIA's Photorealistic Keynote Rendering Software now available for Free to Blender Users"
[+] [-] nabla9|4 years ago|reply
Namely, the possibility of automating bullshit. Endless mission statements, employee narrated stories, and hand gesturing is very valuable. I would pay $10,000 out of my pocket for the opportunity to never do those product hype videos again.
[+] [-] hobofan|4 years ago|reply
Or alternatively, since they are the ones also building it, they intimately know it's (undocumented) pitfalls and how to work around them and/or they plow through bad DX with a horde of engineers that only a big corporation like them can afford. Dog-fooding doesn't automatically improve a product.
[+] [-] zahrc|4 years ago|reply
Useless PR gimmick, which did not impress me at all.
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They apparently created all slides of the keynote with omniverse in a couple of weeks, and used a lot of technologies for no other reason than just to try them out.
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https://dilbert.com/series/71-Dilbert-3D-prints-a-Pointy-Hea...
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Makes you wonder how important most of the video calls really are...
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I always assumed tech CEOs were human, but this explains so much...