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mkeespiet | 4 years ago

Long showers.. in the Netherlands most of the houses are connected to natural gas for heating and showering. We installed multiple solar panels and a heat pump, so we do not use any natural gas anymore (cooking is also electrical). This means we cannot shower all day long, but it is worth it to use only electricity!

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thomaszander|4 years ago

The above comment may be very weird to people not living in The Netherlands as we all know that there is nothing wrong with natural gas, its one of the most eco friendly ways to heat stuff.

But in The Netherlands some government officials have taken the point of view that natural gas is Bad, and we should all pay lots of money to move to heat pumps and similar in order to get rid of it.

The sad thing is that most people in The Netherlands are also lied to by those same politicians about how "green energy" actually is created. For instance after years of planting thousands of windmills (both on land and on sea) the wind-energy electricity generated is still around 1% (I'm actually being generous).

Similarly many farming fields have been converted to now have solar panels, and many many houses have them by default. Same here, total energy created: about 1%.

What government still calls "renewables" is biomass. Which is actually the burning of trees. This is massively bad for nature because those trees are the one thing that actually converts that bad co2 to breathable air again.

Real renewable energy we get from imports from countries like Norway: water power. Around 8%.

But, here is the fun part: the vast majority of our electricity comes from, you guessed it, burning natural gas.

People that invest €10K to have a heat pump and solar power still use a very large amount of grid-electricity, which comes from burning natural gas.

Zababa|4 years ago

> we all know that there is nothing wrong with natural gas, its one of the most eco friendly ways to heat stuff.

What do you mean by this? Natural gas is another fossible fuel, it's far from being "eco friendly". It's better than coal or oil but that's about it.

scotty79|4 years ago

Since heat pumps are over 100% efficient it still might be (is) better to burn natural gas to produce the electricity to power heat pump than to just burn gas for heat.

oefnak|4 years ago

Well, there's also the issue that our national gas reserves lie beneath a city in which there are already many earthquakes thanks to the gas drilling.