Show HN: LemonadeJS – A micro JavaScript library for building web interfaces

[kennywinker]

Mithril has a detailed “why this instead of react/vue/etc” article https://mithril.js.org/framework-comparison.html that I think should be mandatory for any library entering a crowded space like this. If only because i want to know the priorities of the developers.

[montroser]

That would be nice, but also we observers are not owed any such explanation by the creator.

[marz0]

Looks interesting, but I think for a minimal JS framework I'd probably go with AlpineJS. It's pretty much Vue without components.

https://alpinejs.dev/

[yewenjie]

So what is the current opinion of the JS ecosystem on two-way bindings?

[lloydatkinson]

Kind of mixed. In Vue, two way bindings are achieved with the v-model directive but that is literally the syntax sugar equivalent of having a prop and an event.

That is, the two way binding with v-model is no different to doing it "manually" anyway.

[kansface]

Personally, it tends to be convent in practice for forms but is an unholy abomination elsewhere. I'd eschew it altogether and deal with the extra verbosity when it crops up.

[cutler]

Looking at the site's example:

https://lemonadejs.net/v1/examples/hangman

... I see a lot of ugly ES5 code where everything is prefixed with self. How is this progress?

[montroser]

What you are criticizing is (the fashion of) the example app there, not the functionality or interface of the framework itself.

The lemonade.element function just wants a template and an object with some methods. Whether you use ES6 classes or proxies, or ES3 constructor functions with prototypical inheritance, or object literals to define that object is a matter of taste, and it is all up to you.

[aitchnyu]

Umm, why do new microframeworks constantly capture HN attention? I'm trying to understand the ecosystem between Vue and VanillaJS.

[chrisrickard]

Because there was once a time when Vue was being introduced on HN. They need to start somewhere.

[paulhodel]

LemonadeJS is pretty much vanilla, no depencies, no transpiling.

[scns]

It looks really nice IMO, simple in a good way. A real world appliction as an example would be great though.

[paulhodel]

A developer sent this one, which it is quite simple and interesting.

https://lemonadejs.net/v1/examples/hangman

[paulhodel]

Lemonadejs is a super lightweight vanilla javascript micro-library (4Kb). No dependencies, just Vanilla JS.

[mthoms]

This site breaks my browser back button. I find that enormously frustrating.

[bemolator]

I'm learning how to use it, and it is pretty awesome imo