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Slackware 15.0 release candidate one

122 points| Tomte | 4 years ago |slackware.com | reply

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[+] syncsynchalt|4 years ago|reply
Slackware 3.0 was my first distro, in probably 1995.

I'm very curious what modern Slackware is like in practice, given their philosophy and guidance listed in http://www.slackware.com/info/

[+] throwaway47292|4 years ago|reply
It was 3.6 for me, I still miss it.

To be honest, I have been completely overwhelmed by the modern web, ads and cookie warnings are just giving me anxiety, and I mean real physical anxiety. I will go back to my roots, my tty only experience is getting better and better[1]. When I patched the kernel to make the cursor non blinking block, I got such joy, I felt I was a kid again.

Great news that slack is still around! It gives me hope.

[1] https://dev.to/jackdoe/tty-only-1ijn

[+] cyphax|4 years ago|reply
In practice, it is largely like other similar distributions. I've been running Slackware for many years, but the wait for 15 was too long for me so I installed Arch Linux out of curiousity, and found there's a lot of similarities between the "core" repository and user repositories (AUR and Slackbuilds) and how complete they are. For me, the hardest part of this switch was systemd actually. Otherwise it's mostly using the same software (DE, browser, etc).
[+] silisili|4 years ago|reply
Slack was also my first. Amazed to see Pat still at it given all the time that's passed. I'm curious to know how many out there still use slack? I can't say I have in a solid 15-20 years.
[+] _trampeltier|4 years ago|reply
Also Slackware 3.0 here. It was on a CD on my first Linux book. 95 or 96 i also would guess.
[+] dmitryminkovsky|4 years ago|reply
Same here, though probably 1996 or 1997 and on a 486 we got somewhere for free. I made install floppies. I never did get XFree86 configured, unfortunately :(. But it was awesome to install Linux and play around with it.
[+] bdcravens|4 years ago|reply
Don't remember the version, but it was mine as well, around 1998. I still remember setting up all the feature-specific floppies.
[+] shmoe|4 years ago|reply
dude.. me too.. imaging the rainbow boot disk. Or was it color? now I have to check :P
[+] ujeezy|4 years ago|reply
I love that the website is the same design as when I first discovered Slackware in 1999 https://web.archive.org/web/19991117022152/http://slackware....
[+] wrycoder|4 years ago|reply
From the Slack About:

Curious about the machine running this site, eh? Also fairly high on the importance scale (for this site, anyway) is the box itself. The machine is a Pentium III, 600 MHz, with 512 megabytes of RAM. It runs (of course) Slackware Linux, and does an efficient and reliable job even with moderately old hardware. The slackware.com site has been known to run for well over a year without a reboot.

[+] IronWolve|4 years ago|reply
Man I use to buy slackware cd's from walnut creek back in the day, dialup wasn't fast enough to get the latest version.

https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom old cdrom.com

Think I went from slackware to mandrake to fedora/suse then ubuntu(lts)/suse(tumbleweed), to now just Ubuntu(lts) due to ppa's and google/nvidia docker/drivers dev work.

For the servers I'm ditching centos7(eol) for amazon linux 2 now that they support on premise deploys for free. AL3 is unknown at the moment for support... I did for a short time use FreeBSD for servers back in the buffer overflow attacks on Linux when doing my self hosting, but that was 20+ years ago.

Fun Memories and no idea what the future will be. Even Debian is pretty damn good now, but Ubuntu has more polish but Debian has more packages and a better install. IMHO.

[+] fullstop|4 years ago|reply
I spent a few months downloading the floppy sets at night just to find out that my SCSI card was not supported.
[+] sildur|4 years ago|reply
Under which metric is Ubuntu more polished than Debian? I had the impression that Ubuntu is more user friendly, but buggier than Debian. Honestly asking.
[+] vergessenmir|4 years ago|reply
I took a similar journey. I remember getting slackware on 16 3.5inch floppy disks and being super excited on being able to run an OS that took less memory and being able to build and run polyray faster. Then I moved onto slack from walnut creek. Then mandrake Then redhat Then Ubuntu when I got to uni.
[+] cholmon|4 years ago|reply
I'm a bit surprised to see the site has a Let's Encrypt certificate, but it redirects from HTTPS to HTTP;

https://www.slackware.com/ redirects to http://www.slackware.com/

[+] lillecarl|4 years ago|reply
While old-school and a bit funny, not being on https while sporting downloads of something as significant as an operating system isn't what i would want to do. The internet isn't "fun" anymore and we need all security we can get or someone will exploit you.
[+] readingnews|4 years ago|reply
What timing!! I am so tired of ubuntu derivatives... Call me crazy, but too many things are getting in the way of me just using Linux. I went back to Gentoo on most of my boxes, but was actually feeling like Slack not two weeks ago, only to see it still on 14. A bit dated. Now I can check it out again! Get slack!
[+] MisterTea|4 years ago|reply
I had Linux Mint drive me to nearly throw my computer out of the window before I realized there were two different network configuration UI programs fighting each other. One accessed from the Cinnamon system tray and the one in the configuration menu. One was set to dhcp and the other static and the static setting was overriding the dhcp setting. Complete WTF moment.

Now I just use Void Linux Musl with XFCE and install bloated programs like LibreOffice or Steam via flatpack.

[+] klyrs|4 years ago|reply
Nearly all of my complaints about Ubuntu evaporated when I switched over to using i3wm. There's still a couple of weird annoyances, but I'll gripe about anything I use.
[+] beermonster|4 years ago|reply
Ah, making a boot and root floppy using rawwrite. Brings back fond memories. Slackware still has a place in my heart :-)
[+] ydlr|4 years ago|reply
More signifivany for me, it still has a place in my laptop.
[+] tannhaeuser|4 years ago|reply
But, does it run systemd?
[+] syncsynchalt|4 years ago|reply
No. I can think of nothing more aligned with Slackware philosophy than staying on rc.d
[+] evilDagmar|4 years ago|reply
Have we seen any news about Patrick having a catastrophic aneurysm?
[+] pwg|4 years ago|reply
It does not.
[+] hitpointdrew|4 years ago|reply
I really want to love Slackware, but I can't bring myself to use a distro that has basically a single person as the maintainer. What happens if Patrick Volkerding gets hit by a bus? That's it, no more patches, no more updates? Really wish Slackware had a team of maintainers.
[+] lightbulbjim|4 years ago|reply
It used to be that he had a handful of core people who helped out, but it was never official AFAIK.

I feel the same as you. I used Slackware on my primary machine for about a decade, but the long silence between 14.2 and 15 made me nervous.

[+] corentin88|4 years ago|reply
Would be great that HN points out unsecured links (i.e. not HTTPS)
[+] hulitu|4 years ago|reply
There is no security in HTTPS. Are you completely sure you are not MITM ?
[+] q-rews|4 years ago|reply
Now there’s a name I hadn’t heard in 20 years. I thought I had something to do with Winamp at first read.
[+] metalliqaz|4 years ago|reply
wow that website brings me back.

it's horribly out of date but I can see why they kept it. its readable with good information density, and many times faster than js-laden project websites that use frameworks designed for SPAs to display a changelog

[+] s_dev|4 years ago|reply
It's not 'out of date' in my book but very much on brand for the intended audience like:

https://www.openbsd.org/

A very intentional design choice that reflects what the project values.

[+] pavon|4 years ago|reply
The style of the background image is dated (although since it is more subtle than others of the era it doesn't stick out too badly), but the rest of the design is clean and remarkably modern looking for a site that hasn't been redesigned in over 20 years.
[+] xuhu|4 years ago|reply
The page loads in 10 seconds on an i7-10850H, and it's not due to downloading the html. Chrome just freezes while parsing the DOM or something.