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The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don’t Have Answers

15 points| URfejk | 4 years ago |msn.com

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[+] xyzzy21|4 years ago|reply
Well, yeah. Because an Emergency Authorization by FDA means NONE of the normal safety testing has been done yet. That's what the Emergency Authorization bypasses!!

It take 5-15 years to identify long-term issues related to: cancer, immune, neurologic, endocrine, teratogenic, etc. effects because those systems and phenomena have much longer time-constants.

So emergency authorizations were NEVER intended to be for "vaccinate the entire population" scenarios. They were intended for "<5% of vulnerable" scenarios.

So now if you've been vaccinated, congratulations, you are a clinical trial participant. Except the "control group" has already been eliminated so the trial won't be fully scientific or valid.

The clinical trials are slated to complete by 2023 or 2024. And like any clinical trial, the FDA could decide to fail the drug and not sign-off on it if things don't go right.

And there are KNOWN risks with any vaccine such as ADE or Antibody Dependent Enhancement. Virologists and immunologists raised the flag on this because they went ahead with COVID vaccines - they were ignored or shouted down.

Many vaccines run through FDA testing have never made it out and so you don't hear about them because they triggered ADE and similar side effects, so they will killed off BEFORE anyone took them.

https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-cent...

The core of ADE comes from the fact there are two (2) primarily immune systems that work against invading pathogens: the first is the antibody system that vaccines use and the second is lymphocytic where "memories" of invaders are encoded into their genetic lines.

ADE occurs when the antibodies of the vaccine become associated with healthy tissue including lymphocytes themselves that are attacked by lymphocytes.

This causes the two sides of the immune system to fight each other resulting in reduced immunity against 1) the vaccine target itself, and 2) against every lymphocytic memory target the body has ever learned about.

#2 includes every virus or bacteria you've ever had/recovered from, as well as cancers, and other abnormalities your body had to use cell-death to "fix". So ADE can trigger auto-immune diseases, relapses like shingles as the chickenpox virus is reanimated from cell DNA, cancers you know about but also even more you body silently handled. TB and similar diseases "in stasis" can also be re-animated.

Break-through COVID is what ADE would look like. It also looks many of the vaccine deaths seen.

A spectacular example of how you need FULL clinical trials was the trial for TGN1412.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2964774/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_sX93RHOk

"Luckily" the bad responses were very fast with TGB1412. BUT it had also gone through stages that the COVID vaccines have NOT YET COMPLETED, and it was judged to be safe in monkey trials. But humans in this case were not close enough to monkeys!

Another with long term effects was Thalidomide.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21507989/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0b38vpruFo

So now we have longer term risks that won't show up except after YEARS of clinical trials. You should NEVER skimp on the trials nor short-circuit the long-term testing/monitoring BEFORE general use.

[+] bradknowles|4 years ago|reply
Under normal circumstances, I might agree with you. But these are not normal circumstances.

Thalidomide was never involved as a treatment for a pandemic level situation. The rules outside of a pandemic are different from the rules when you are in the middle of a pandemic.