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seriousquestion | 4 years ago

You don't even have to imagine. Kamala Harris: "But if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I’m not taking it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dAjCeMuXR0

The same thing was broadly expressed on twitter at the time too, she was far from alone in that sentiment.

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cprayingmantis|4 years ago

That's an interesting quote and you're 100% correct. However you only gave a snippet of the quote. The full transcript is:

Commentator: If the Trump administration approves a vaccine before or after the election should Americans take it? And would you take it?

Harris: If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the Doctors, tell us we should take it, I'll be the first in line to take it, absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it I'm not taking it.

Harris is alluding to the fact that we should listen to people who actually have medical experience and know what they're talking about. You have to remember this was only a few months after Trump had tried to play doctor on TV by saying:

"So I asked Bill a question some of you are thinking of if you're into that world, which I find to be pretty interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful."

lovecg|4 years ago

Why did you omit the first part of the quote? “If the public health professionals … tell me to take I will absolutely take it. But if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I’m not taking it.”

I think this is a reasonable message of caution when talking about someone pushing HCQ and drinking bleach on the daily.

seriousquestion|4 years ago

Does the first part matter in the context of what the OP was talking about? If Trump mandated it many would not take it on that basis alone. That’s the point I’m responding to.

“If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the Doctors, tell us we should take it, I'll be the first in line to take it, absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it I'm not taking it.“

Note “But if…”. That programmers aren’t able to parse this if else statement is concerning.

clint|4 years ago

This has got to be one of the dumber arguments I've seen made in the media and especially here.

Kamala was saying that if the only person telling her she should get vaccinated was Donald Trump, then no, she would not take it.

The (very clear) implication is that she would prefer that people who actually know what they are talking about (i.e. virologists, doctors, nurses, scientists, the FDA, the CDC, NIH...etc) recommends getting the vaccine, then she would get it enthusiastically.

Is this really too hard to understand or are you really trying to use this extremely flimsy argument to accuse her of hypocrisy?

myko|4 years ago

She is absolutely right. If trump touts a vaccine but the medical community does not, she wouldn't trust it - and neither should you.

You have to remember at the time trump was recommending hydroxychloroquine as a preventative and miracle treatment for COVID-19. Sadly some of his followers still believe it (and now are looking at ivermectin as well).