[superflit]

As a Brazilian this why we have the largest number of homicides and one of highest rate of homicides ->

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...

What boils down is the Narco and crime sponsor policies that looks good on paper but on reality is made to free more prisoners.

The govt likes it because "feels good" and reduce prisoner spending and looks good on UN stats.

Lets by example say that I had a discussion with someone here and I killed him.

If I am on the 10% solved murdered case I will be brought to justice.

Then criminal justice will come:

1. Was I caught in "flagrante" (up to 24h after crime)? No? Wait for judgment outside or wait for preventive prison;

2. Do I have a job or a clean record? If yes wait for trial at home;

3. Did I intent to kill? Yes go to trial, Then you may pay some damages (very low fees) and community service.

Then comes trial. I am consider Guilty IF ONLY, IF ONLY when ALL resources and recurses of law were finished.

It is normal to crimes prescribes after 20 year abusing courts but it is the law.

So I lost all recurses and now I am in Jail. The maximum sentence is 30 years (Even if I kill 10 people).

I have the right to intimate visit (I can have sex with my girlfriend/friend/wife).

If I am studying I can leave to study.

If I work each worked day another one is removed from my sentence.

If I read a book too.

Then If I have good "behavior" my sentence is reduced to 1/6.

DO the math -> max 30 /6 -> 5 years - bonus points (book, studying) I am free in 2-3 years.

Now check the link I posted above -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention... (click count, rate) Brazil is very humane with criminals but not with its victims.

My lower middle class condo has electrified fences, armed guards, CCTV, patrols, bullet proof glasses it is like a prison. The higher classes have more features.

People with good meaning soul and big heart cannot comprehend that some people for whatever reasons feel pleasure in being evil and don't care about others life. Then they project their good meaning in laws and thus give more power to evil people do more evil until they die.

Welcome to "modern laws" for just evolved homo sapiens.

[lvass]

Could've been phrased better but there's so much truth in this. Murder solving rate is actually more like 6%. And indeed sentences are normally reduced to 1/6, but not because of good behavior, but "regime progression" which technically allows you to work outside prison during the day but there's not ever enough room in prison for spending the night so you just become free.

Take a relatively harsh 12-year sentence for murder. Multiply by 6% for the chance you get caught and divide by 6 for regime progression. You spend 43.8 days in prison in average. The 6% figure includes people who murder in public and don't even try to run away. Be a little smarter about it and your sentence is effectively zero.

It's pure impunity for criminals. And a harsh life for honest people. Not hard to predict the outcome.

[Kaze404]

It's unbelievable that to some, the solution to the high crime rate in Brazil is putting more people in jail when a significant part of our prison population hasn't even been tried for their crimes yet. It's always shocking to read such a take, but I am then immediately reminded of the fact that we tend to gravitate towards easy answers to complicated problems. Hopefully one day you can move past that.

[motoboi]

As a brazilian I can say that you must keep thinking about those things and someday you'll understand why your arguments are full of prejudice and ignorance.

[guiraldelli]

Would you mind to make a clear counter-argument, so it informs all of us what "arguments are full of prejudice and ignorance" and why?

I found the arguments very well rounded, with good references, sound math, and a window to personal experience that reflects the lives of many back in Brazil.

I am not going to pour more anecdotal evidences to reinforce the original argument, but there is a widespread problem of impunity in Brazil: the low-hanging fruits (known “chicken burglars”) are severely punished, in my opinion, while the extreme cases (both assassins and politicians) are “roaming free”.

As many things in Brazil, I have the impression that justice is only “para inglês ver” (just for the show).

At last, I suspect you might be biased by your own prejudices when reading and reasoning on the arguments of superflit.

Thus, I think it is important to neutrally reason and point out the flaws of the argumentation, as well as show new perspectives, instead of an empty, straw-man attack, full of personal sentiment behind it.

[superflit]

Personal attacks are not arguments.