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iCloud beta

107 points| sahillavingia | 14 years ago |icloud.com | reply

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[+] sudonim|14 years ago|reply
The team involved really spent the time to make the web versions of these apps have an aesthetic unified with the iOS and Mac versions. As someone who does web stuff day in, day out... the difference between working and polished is huge. Apple has pulled out all the stops to make these polished apps. Kudos to them.
[+] lovskogen|14 years ago|reply
They don't preload the images for the three iWork apps. Any, any small hint of web loading breaks the 'app feeling'.
[+] ugh|14 years ago|reply
Not everyone with an Apple ID can log in, <strike>only paying developers.</strike> who knows which mysterious rules Apple uses to let people in.

Here are some screenshots:

http://9to5mac.com/2011/08/01/icloud-com-opens-up-for-develo...

http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/01/apple-icloud-dot-com-web-ap...

All three apps (Mail, Contacts, Calendar) are very feature rich, responsive and quite shiny. At least Calendar uses local storage (but will ask you before it does). All three apps took no more than five seconds or so to load for the first time, subsequent loads were much, much faster. iCloud saves state, wherever you are when you close the window will be where you are when you go back to iCloud.

I’m not a fan of the re-implemented scrollbars (Mail and Calendar even use pre-Lion and pre-iOS scrollbars). Also, composing a new message opens up a new window which seems very weird.

You should definitely go visit iCloud.com with deactivated Javascript or cookies.

[+] Timothee|14 years ago|reply
Not everyone with an Apple ID can log in, only paying developers.

I have a free developer account and was able to log in. I don't have a @me.com address so I couldn't check Mail, but the rest worked.

[+] sirn|14 years ago|reply
Just as with MobileMe, iCloud Web seems to be done with SproutCore and a bit of jQuery[1]. Though it feel funny when they recreate the iOS-style scrollbar with JavaScript, despite Lion already has such a thing... (not to mention the scrollbar is inconsistent between Contacts and iCloud Calendar)

I'm honestly surprised at how "complete" these apps are. At least with Calendar and Contacts, they works exactly like its iPad/OSX equivalent.

[1]: https://www.icloud.com/system/cloudos/en-us/640/javascript-p...

[+] JFrolich|14 years ago|reply
I'm curious if they are using SC1.6 or some custom build. Maybe even 2.0?
[+] dooq|14 years ago|reply
"Your browser is not supported. To use iCloud, we recommend using the latest version of Safari, Firefox, or Internet Explorer."

Also, there's a cute picture of a sad-face cloud. lol.

I'm using Firefox 3.6.19, since FF4 wasn't working well on my mac when I tried it.

[+] extension|14 years ago|reply
Strange, it doesn't recognize my Apple ID at all. It knows the one I use for iTunes but when I try to use my developer ID it says the login doesn't even exist. It's a paid account and it works fine in the developer portal.

(I would ask for help in the developer forums but I can't login to those either. It just keeps redirecting me to the splash page.)

[+] __david__|14 years ago|reply
It's not just you, I'm getting that too.
[+] cageface|14 years ago|reply
So I get the skeuomorphic UIs, complete with bits of torn paper at the top of the calendar pad and all, without even the justification of a touchscreen? No, thanks.

Are they going to put a scent generator in my next Mac so my trash starts to stink if I don't empty it?

[+] radicaldreamer|14 years ago|reply
While many people on hacker news might roll their eyes at the UI design, many novice users seem to like these interfaces- it signifies to novice users that they can stop keeping a paper address book and paper calendar and move to the using their iPad and the web, something they might have previously only thought business or techy types did.

Additionally, I don't think the functionality of these apps suffers at all from this.

[+] cormullion|14 years ago|reply
The torn paper effect is in the current MobileMe calendar anyway. But, sadly, there's no gradual increase in the torn bits during the year - by December it should be ragged... A missed opportunity, at least in mobileme. Haven't seen icloud yet.
[+] r00fus|14 years ago|reply
These are there because Mac is going touch as well (at first only using the macbook and magic trackpads, but I think there will be a stronger merger between OSX and iOS in terms of user input in coming releases.

Guess even a 0-button mouse wasn't enough... the UI hints are all about trackpads and deep touch gestures.

[+] ristretto|14 years ago|reply
At some point i fear users are going to start tearing off their screens and throwing them bit by bit in the recycle bin.
[+] laran|14 years ago|reply
This would be one heck of a phishing scam to get everyone's Apple ids. Has anyone verified that the site is legit?
[+] catch23|14 years ago|reply
If it were a phishing scam, I'd still have to give the phisher a thumbs up for using sproutcore & CSS3 techniques on the site. There's a significant amount of javascript for a phishing page.
[+] mikemaccana|14 years ago|reply
Indeed. A site asking for my apple.com password that isn't apple.com? No thanks.

You'd think oauth would just be part of implementing logins, and apple wouldn't be encouraging people to give their passwords to other sites.

[+] nomdeplume|14 years ago|reply
so easy step 1) so sorry. You are on wrong OS. try again step 2) so sorry. You are on wrong browser. try again step 3) so sorry. You must enable Javascript. try again step 4) so sorry. You must be developer. try again
[+] ghempton|14 years ago|reply
Tried from Safari and Chrome on OS X Lion and it says I am not on OS X lion...
[+] SODaniel|14 years ago|reply
My guess is that Apple's move into the cloud space will be a pretty big boost for other online backup, sync and share companies; SpiderOak, Dropbox, Wuala etc.
[+] bengl3rt|14 years ago|reply
Erm... Okay, so I want to move all my mail (and my address) over from MobileMe. Where's the button?
[+] ugh|14 years ago|reply
It’s a beta, open only for developers. Patience.
[+] mattberg|14 years ago|reply
agreed, right there with you. my main apple id is gmail, but i do already have a me.com account also. would like to merge but it seems the only option on the iPhone is to create a new one, not sign-in with an existing one.
[+] gutini|14 years ago|reply
If anything, excellent use of Steve's turtleneck as background texture inspiration.
[+] mikecaron|14 years ago|reply
I think "iForgot" is a nice touch.
[+] uast23|14 years ago|reply
Off topic: What are the other sites doing "your browser is not supported" with chrome?